So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to have a virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do work fine on Mac, Right?
reggie and Allegra On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive. CB > On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s why > I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac. > > I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too? > > My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two. > > Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these virtual > app? > > Thanks! > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7 > 4GB DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > >> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >> >> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows is >> the most widely used, but it's also useful for running >> linux/bsd instances. >>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run >>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is >>> called parallels. >>> >>> Sent from my IPhone >>> >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins >>> <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs. >>>> >>>> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows? >>>> >>>> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is not >>>> accessible? Or is there an solution? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Daniel Hawkins >>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>>> >>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>>> 4GB DDR3 >>>> 500GB HDD >>>> >>>> Dual Boot: >>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>>> >>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> oooo thanks a ton for these links, that's awesome. >>>>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization >>>>> solution. I have 16 gb ram, so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box >>>>> so I could test my libraries and that on BSD >>>>> as well. >>>>> HTH: >>>>>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote: >>>>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> reggie and Allegra >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able to >>>>>>> find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the command >>>>>>> line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth looking >>>>>>> into. >>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you >>>>>>>> don't have to use the GUI. From the manual: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, you >>>>>>>> can completely control VirtualBox from >>>>>>>> the command line of your host operating system. VBoxManage supports >>>>>>>> all the features that the graphical user interface gives you access >>>>>>>> to, but it supports a lot more than that. It exposes really all the >>>>>>>> features of the virtualization engine, even those that cannot (yet) be >>>>>>>> accessed from the GUI." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's free so why not give it a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, >>>>>>>>> virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone once posted a quick >>>>>>>>> tutorial on using it to set up a VM on Windows which you'd then >>>>>>>>> import to the Mac. Still, when I gave it a try, audio in the vm was >>>>>>>>> extremely low and nothing I did would bring it up. I find Fusion to >>>>>>>>> be better, plus, of course, the preferences and other settings are >>>>>>>>> accessible. >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hello: >>>>>>>>>> I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for vmware >>>>>>>>>> fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac. Anyone know if >>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is accessible, or if there are other choices? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>>>>> Ty >>>>>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; >>>>>>>>>> he that dares not reason is a slave. >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Toaster (tm). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Take care, >>>>> Ty >>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; 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