If you need occasional access to some Windows-only app a virtual machine
can be a nice way to do it. Of course, like a real Windows machine,
you'll have to install Windows and your screen reader of choice. The
only common complaint is mapping of the caps lock and insert keys.
Apparently the Mac OS doesn't pass the caps lock through so if it is
being used for something other than making capital letters you'll need
to use another key combo. Likewise for those on laptops or using smaller
external keyboards there isn't an insert key. Check the list archives
for workarounds on both of those.
CB
On 1/2/14 2:55 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to
have a virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do
work fine on Mac, Right?
reggie and Allegra
On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps
which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you
launch one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your
bidding. Most people use them to load Windows on but you can load an
OS that normally will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine
is only as accessible as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of
course there is some overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that
they would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't an
issue. For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running
Office, and you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to
Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code would be
writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the virtual
machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of
redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is
free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control
it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as
is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special
running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can
ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare
can also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say
accessible, that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell
how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As previously
mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as
accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you
must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots
your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I
haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current
MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have
to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching
from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual machines they
are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for example,
copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa.
Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard
drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows
virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that
virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive.
CB
On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible.
That’s why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these
virtual app?
Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want.
Windows is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running
linux/bsd instances.
On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and
run Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one
that isn't is called parallels.
Sent from my IPhone
On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello all,
I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual
programs is not accessible? Or is there an solution?
Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
oooo thanks a ton for these links, that's awesome.
Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb
ram, so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test
my libraries and that on BSD as well.
HTH:
On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
reggie and Allegra
On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello,
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html
http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
Gena
On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never
able to find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started
with the command line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is
definitely worth looking into.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so
you don't have to use the GUI. From the manual:
"VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With
it, you can completely control VirtualBox from the command
line of your host operating system. VBoxManage supports all
the features that the graphical user interface gives you
access to, but it supports a lot more than that. It exposes
really all the features of the virtualization engine, even
those that cannot (yet) be accessed from the GUI."
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
It's free so why not give it a try.
CB
On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal
license. No, virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone
once posted a quick tutorial on using it to set up a VM on
Windows which you'd then import to the Mac. Still, when I
gave it a try, audio in the vm was extremely low and nothing
I did would bring it up. I find Fusion to be better, plus, of
course, the preferences and other settings are accessible.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
hello:
I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for
vmware fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac.
Anyone know if virtualbox is accessible, or if there are
other choices?
Thanks,
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