Chris, I meant Duxbury as one of the programs that I would run on the virtual end of my Mac. I couldn't get out of the spell checker before sending my last post.
Eileen On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: > Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which > emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of > those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use > them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a > generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS > normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so > things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but > for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual > windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would > pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code > would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the > virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of > redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but > the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from > the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few > bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not > free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only > while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on > Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app > itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As > previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as > accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must > have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac > into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried > this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice > high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in > either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a > reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. > So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or > vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine > hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows > virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard > drive, not your entire Mac drive. > > CB > > On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: >> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s >> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac. >> >> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too? >> >> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two. >> >> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these >> virtual app? >> >> Thanks! >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >> 4GB DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> >> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >> >>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows >>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd >>> instances. >>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run >>>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is >>>> called parallels. >>>> >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins >>>> <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs. >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows? >>>>> >>>>> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is >>>>> not accessible? Or is there an solution? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Daniel Hawkins >>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>>>> >>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>>>> 4GB DDR3 >>>>> 500GB HDD >>>>> >>>>> Dual Boot: >>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> oooo thanks a ton for these links, that's awesome. >>>>>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, so >>>>>> I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my libraries >>>>>> and that on BSD as well. >>>>>> HTH: >>>>>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote: >>>>>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> reggie and Allegra >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able >>>>>>>> to find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the >>>>>>>> command line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth >>>>>>>> looking into. >>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you >>>>>>>>> don't have to use the GUI. From the manual: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, you >>>>>>>>> can completely control VirtualBox from the command line of your host >>>>>>>>> operating system. VBoxManage supports all the features that the >>>>>>>>> graphical user interface gives you access to, but it supports a lot >>>>>>>>> more than that. It exposes really all the features of the >>>>>>>>> virtualization engine, even those that cannot (yet) be accessed from >>>>>>>>> the GUI." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's free so why not give it a try. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, >>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone once posted a quick >>>>>>>>>> tutorial on using it to set up a VM on Windows which you'd then >>>>>>>>>> import to the Mac. Still, when I gave it a try, audio in the vm was >>>>>>>>>> extremely low and nothing I did would bring it up. I find Fusion to >>>>>>>>>> be better, plus, of course, the preferences and other settings are >>>>>>>>>> accessible. >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hello: >>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for vmware >>>>>>>>>>> fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac. Anyone know if >>>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is accessible, or if there are other choices? >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>>>>>> Ty >>>>>>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a >>>>>>>>>>> fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Toaster (tm). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> Ty >>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; 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