Hi Donna,
It beeps if I hit an invalid command. Which appears to be about every
combination I try on that list of common commands. It beeps and does
nothing because it won't use that command there.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:26:10 PM UTC-5, Donna wrote:
>
> What do you mean it beeps. I leave my Mac on with Voiceover running all
> the time, and it never beeps. The only sound I can think of that you might
> be hearing is the ding signifying that you got a new email. If that
> bothers you, then just close the email program, or disable the new mail
> sound.
> Donna
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:22 PM, April Brown <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> By turning it off, and then re-opening everything, I restart at the
> beginning, instead of stuck in a toolbar that I don't how to get out of. I
> have to know where it will start each time, so I can make notes, and be
> able to use it the next time.
>
> Perhaps tomorrow, my husband can listen to the hard rock music if I call
> the Apple number, and maybe they'll have someone who at least knows how to
> get out of the menu bar. The last couple of people I spoke to, didn't
> know how to turn it on, much less use it.
>
> I don't want to leave it on all the time, it beeps constantly, especially
> if typing in a Pages document. That day may come. For now, 30 minutes of
> "training" a day is plenty.
>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:16:59 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>
>> But April, by turning Voice OVer on and off, you are not doing what you
>> think you are doing. There is no starting at the beginning with Voice
>> Over. Just leave it on. How else do you expect to learn it?
>>
>> For more, I’d go to:
>> www.applevis.com
>> and also,
>> www.icanworkthisthing.com
>>
>> YOu simply must learn to develope confidence with the system: and,
>> framkly, beeing spoonfed everything all the time is a lousey way to do
>> that. Don’t try to learn everything at once because it ain’t gonna happen.
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:34 PM, April Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it
>> back up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure
>> out the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks. I know it's
>> incorrect. I haven't found directions anywhere. I just have multiple
>> lists of commands, and no idea what order to put them in. It's a giant
>> jigsaw puzzle. I try what you suggest.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> April
>> .
>>
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:29:48 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>>
>>> April,
>>>
>>> First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for
>>> nothing. Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get
>>> out of Safari. This is quite frankly, unnecessary. Also, the procedure
>>> you are using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect.
>>>
>>> First, leave Voice OVer on. DO, NOT, turn it off.
>>>
>>> Here’s how to get in to book marks.
>>>
>>> 1. Open Safari.
>>>
>>> 2. Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure.
>>>
>>> 3. Now, press b for book marks.
>>>
>>> 4. Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark
>>> folder you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it.
>>>
>>> Want to edit your book Marks?
>>>
>>> Do this.
>>>
>>> 1. Open safari.
>>>
>>> 2. Press Cmd+Option+b. That gets you in to the edit book marks window.
>>>
>>> You should know enough by now to take it from there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind built-in!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I opened Safari.
>>> I turned VoiceOver on.
>>> After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
>>> Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed,
>>> and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking.
>>>
>>> I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again.
>>>
>>> Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar to
>>> an actual bookmark. The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it
>>> highlighted and wanted to change it. Huh?
>>>
>>> So, I closed and turned it all off again.
>>>
>>> Then, I opened Safari back up. Opened up a web page, and turned
>>> VoiceOver back on. Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to
>>> content. At least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need
>>> read to me, and it will then work.
>>>
>>> That's my 30 minutes of trying to open a webpage today.
>>>
>>> Back to writing.
>>>
>>> And you wonder why I need step by step directions, and not just a random
>>> list.
>>>
>>> So far, to get it on Safari, I have:
>>> Step 1: Open Safari
>>> Step 2: Command, F5 to start VoiceOver
>>> Step 1: Control, Option, Down arrow from the menu to the bookmarks. And
>>> yet it doesn't quiet work, as it doesn't go the list of bookmarks. It did
>>> once.
>>>
>>> And where did this creepy male voice come from that keeps interrupting?
>>> I can't comprehend low tones.
>>>
>>>
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