Hi Donna, It beeps if I hit an invalid command. Which appears to be about every combination I try on that list of common commands. It beeps and does nothing because it won't use that command there.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:26:10 PM UTC-5, Donna wrote: > > What do you mean it beeps. I leave my Mac on with Voiceover running all > the time, and it never beeps. The only sound I can think of that you might > be hearing is the ding signifying that you got a new email. If that > bothers you, then just close the email program, or disable the new mail > sound. > Donna > On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:22 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > By turning it off, and then re-opening everything, I restart at the > beginning, instead of stuck in a toolbar that I don't how to get out of. I > have to know where it will start each time, so I can make notes, and be > able to use it the next time. > > Perhaps tomorrow, my husband can listen to the hard rock music if I call > the Apple number, and maybe they'll have someone who at least knows how to > get out of the menu bar. The last couple of people I spoke to, didn't > know how to turn it on, much less use it. > > I don't want to leave it on all the time, it beeps constantly, especially > if typing in a Pages document. That day may come. For now, 30 minutes of > "training" a day is plenty. > > On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:16:59 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote: >> >> But April, by turning Voice OVer on and off, you are not doing what you >> think you are doing. There is no starting at the beginning with Voice >> Over. Just leave it on. How else do you expect to learn it? >> >> For more, I’d go to: >> www.applevis.com >> and also, >> www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> YOu simply must learn to develope confidence with the system: and, >> framkly, beeing spoonfed everything all the time is a lousey way to do >> that. Don’t try to learn everything at once because it ain’t gonna happen. >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:34 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it >> back up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure >> out the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks. I know it's >> incorrect. I haven't found directions anywhere. I just have multiple >> lists of commands, and no idea what order to put them in. It's a giant >> jigsaw puzzle. I try what you suggest. >> >> Thanks, >> >> April >> . >> >> On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:29:48 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote: >>> >>> April, >>> >>> First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for >>> nothing. Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get >>> out of Safari. This is quite frankly, unnecessary. Also, the procedure >>> you are using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect. >>> >>> First, leave Voice OVer on. DO, NOT, turn it off. >>> >>> Here’s how to get in to book marks. >>> >>> 1. Open Safari. >>> >>> 2. Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure. >>> >>> 3. Now, press b for book marks. >>> >>> 4. Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark >>> folder you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it. >>> >>> Want to edit your book Marks? >>> >>> Do this. >>> >>> 1. Open safari. >>> >>> 2. Press Cmd+Option+b. That gets you in to the edit book marks window. >>> >>> You should know enough by now to take it from there. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>> blind built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I opened Safari. >>> I turned VoiceOver on. >>> After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks. >>> Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed, >>> and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking. >>> >>> I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again. >>> >>> Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar to >>> an actual bookmark. The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it >>> highlighted and wanted to change it. Huh? >>> >>> So, I closed and turned it all off again. >>> >>> Then, I opened Safari back up. Opened up a web page, and turned >>> VoiceOver back on. Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to >>> content. At least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need >>> read to me, and it will then work. >>> >>> That's my 30 minutes of trying to open a webpage today. >>> >>> Back to writing. >>> >>> And you wonder why I need step by step directions, and not just a random >>> list. >>> >>> So far, to get it on Safari, I have: >>> Step 1: Open Safari >>> Step 2: Command, F5 to start VoiceOver >>> Step 1: Control, Option, Down arrow from the menu to the bookmarks. And >>> yet it doesn't quiet work, as it doesn't go the list of bookmarks. It did >>> once. >>> >>> And where did this creepy male voice come from that keeps interrupting? >>> I can't comprehend low tones. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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