Hi Teresa,
I really need on on one training. However, the techs have no
training in VoiceOver. I did call the number once, and never reached a
person, just high pitched screaming music. I did the online chat, and even
that tech didn't know anything about VoiceOver.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:54:32 PM UTC-5, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
> Hi, April,
>
> It sounds like you very possibly could very much benefit from individual
> instruction. If you have an Apple Store in your area, you might find out if
> the folks there can refer you to someone. Or you can call Apple’s
> accessibility number for referrals. I am not saying this because we don’t
> want to help you. I’m thinking that it’s sort of like the person who
> constantly gets lost and never remembers how the route is corrected,
> because each error is different. Not to mention that it’s a fairly steep
> learning curve, and it’s always beneficial to have a consistent method of
> doing things, especially as a beginner.
>
> I don’t know where you’re located, but here’s the Apple accessibility
> number:
> 1-877-204-3930 US only.
>
> Also, I’m sure there are folks on this list who can give one-on-one
> instruction for using the Mac.
>
> this is just a suggestion.
>
> HtH,
> Teresa
>
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:34 AM, April Brown <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> > The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it
> back up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure
> out the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks. I know it's
> incorrect. I haven't found directions anywhere. I just have multiple
> lists of commands, and no idea what order to put them in. It's a giant
> jigsaw puzzle. I try what you suggest.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > April
> > .
> >
> > On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:29:48 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> > April,
> >
> > First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for
> nothing. Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get
> out of Safari. This is quite frankly, unnecessary. Also, the procedure
> you are using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect.
> >
> > First, leave Voice OVer on. DO, NOT, turn it off.
> >
> > Here’s how to get in to book marks.
> >
> > 1. Open Safari.
> >
> > 2. Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure.
> >
> > 3. Now, press b for book marks.
> >
> > 4. Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark
> folder you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it.
> >
> > Want to edit your book Marks?
> >
> > Do this.
> >
> > 1. Open safari.
> >
> > 2. Press Cmd+Option+b. That gets you in to the edit book marks window.
> >
> > You should know enough by now to take it from there.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind built-in!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I opened Safari.
> >> I turned VoiceOver on.
> >> After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
> >> Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it
> crashed, and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking.
> >>
> >> I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again.
> >>
> >> Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar
> to an actual bookmark. The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it
> highlighted and wanted to change it. Huh?
> >>
> >> So, I closed and turned it all off again.
> >>
> >> Then, I opened Safari back up. Opened up a web page, and turned
> VoiceOver back on. Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to
> content. At least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need
> read to me, and it will then work.
> >>
> >> That's my 30 minutes of trying to open a webpage today.
> >>
> >> Back to writing.
> >>
> >> And you wonder why I need step by step directions, and not just a
> random list.
> >>
> >> So far, to get it on Safari, I have:
> >> Step 1: Open Safari
> >> Step 2: Command, F5 to start VoiceOver
> >> Step 1: Control, Option, Down arrow from the menu to the bookmarks.
> And yet it doesn't quiet work, as it doesn't go the list of bookmarks. It
> did once.
> >>
> >> And where did this creepy male voice come from that keeps interrupting?
> I can't comprehend low tones.
> >>
> >>
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