Yes, this is absolutely not just an interesting and novel project to do for the fun of it though you could enjoy that too if you like a challenge! Tracking and using braille in terminal, at least for me, works way better with brltty than with voiceover's braille. Plus you don't get all those line end symbols etc showing throughout your text and screen output. You do have to use the screen program with brltty at this point and this is why it is still restricted to use in terminal; it isn't that native screen support wouldn't be possible on the Mac but as I understand it nobody working on brltty has been able to get access to that information at this point. It is used across several platforms including I believe Android phones though I don't have and android phone so haven't experienced it there. It supports a wide array of braille displays including many of the older usb-serial devices that Apple doesn't support but it also supports a variety of newer displays with usb and bluetooth capability. If you want to learn more you can go to http://www.mielke.cc/brltty and there is also a brltty email list.
-- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Alex, > > VO works ok with the shell, but once you start using applications like Alpine > for mail and text web browsers, VO HAS some pretty awkward tracking issues. > Brtty is specifically designed to work with a terminal and does a wonerful > job of it. It's the only screen reader I know of that uses Braille as primary > output and speech as a backup. And for getting around the Unix-like system, > nothing beats it, IMO. > > HtH, > Teresa > > Sent from my iPod > >> On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sorry, but why build Brltty for the mac? Voiceover has extensive braille >> support, and it is the only screen reader available for the Mac to my >> knowledge. There may be edge cases where independent braille output would be >> helpful, but I can't think of any. Aside from the fun of the project itself >> (no, that's not sarcasm, I can understand enjoying something like this) what >> is the goal? I'm not trying to discourage anyone, I'm simply curious. >>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You definitely need to use screen-4.0.1 and that still can be compiled and >>> still does work and still is available but you have to get the source and >>> compile it. You need this because you have to use the brltty patches with >>> it. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheryl >>> >>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>> thrown in the trash! >>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>> And now, every day: >>> "This I call to mind, >>> and therefore I have hope: >>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>> never ceases; >>> his mercies never come to an end; >>> they are new every morning; >>> great is your faithfulness." >>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Cheryl, >>>> Thanks for revisiting this. I think your original post was in 2006: much >>>> has changed since then, especially on the mac side. I found an article on >>>> building bratty for bad . They mentioned an SHM flavor of screen which we >>>> may need to look into. Once your start the screen, they mention running >>>> the following command to see whether you have shared memory active: >>>> ipcs -m >>>> >>>> Anyway, once we get a compatible version of screen, we’ll be more than >>>> half way there. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You need to use screen-4.0.1 and there are also patches you have to apply >>>>> which are contained in the brltty source which you must download using >>>>> subversion. I will really try to update the instructions I wrote several >>>>> years ago and post them in the next few days. >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheryl >>>>> >>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>> And now, every day: >>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>> never ceases; >>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I’m looking at building brltty on the mac. The first problem is >>>>>> compiling a version of screen with shared memory. I don’t think the >>>>>> version which comes with the os in /usr/bin supports shared memory . I >>>>>> installed the version of screen from macports, but don’t think the >>>>>> result is any better even though it appears to include the shared memory >>>>>> patch from brltty. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any other insights are welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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