Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, and best of luck on this. On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:03 AM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, this is absolutely not just an interesting and novel project to do for > the fun of it though you could enjoy that too if you like a challenge! > Tracking and using braille in terminal, at least for me, works way better > with brltty than with voiceover's braille. Plus you don't get all those line > end symbols etc showing throughout your text and screen output. You do have > to use the screen program with brltty at this point and this is why it is > still restricted to use in terminal; it isn't that native screen support > wouldn't be possible on the Mac but as I understand it nobody working on > brltty has been able to get access to that information at this point. It is > used across several platforms including I believe Android phones though I > don't have and android phone so haven't experienced it there. It supports a > wide array of braille displays including many of the older usb-serial devices > that Apple doesn't support but it also supports a variety of newer displays > with usb and bluetooth capability. If you want to learn more you can go to > http://www.mielke.cc/brltty > and there is also a brltty email list. > > -- > Cheryl > > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper > thrown in the trash! > Then God gave me a new heart and life: > His joy for my despairing tears! > And now, every day: > "This I call to mind, > and therefore I have hope: > The steadfast love of the Lord > never ceases; > his mercies never come to an end; > they are new every morning; > great is your faithfulness." > (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > > > > > > On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, Alex, >> >> VO works ok with the shell, but once you start using applications like >> Alpine for mail and text web browsers, VO HAS some pretty awkward tracking >> issues. Brtty is specifically designed to work with a terminal and does a >> wonerful job of it. It's the only screen reader I know of that uses Braille >> as primary output and speech as a backup. And for getting around the >> Unix-like system, nothing beats it, IMO. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, but why build Brltty for the mac? Voiceover has extensive braille >>> support, and it is the only screen reader available for the Mac to my >>> knowledge. There may be edge cases where independent braille output would >>> be helpful, but I can't think of any. Aside from the fun of the project >>> itself (no, that's not sarcasm, I can understand enjoying something like >>> this) what is the goal? I'm not trying to discourage anyone, I'm simply >>> curious. >>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You definitely need to use screen-4.0.1 and that still can be compiled and >>>> still does work and still is available but you have to get the source and >>>> compile it. You need this because you have to use the brltty patches with >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>> thrown in the trash! >>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>> And now, every day: >>>> "This I call to mind, >>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>> never ceases; >>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>> they are new every morning; >>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cheryl, >>>>> Thanks for revisiting this. I think your original post was in 2006: much >>>>> has changed since then, especially on the mac side. I found an article >>>>> on building bratty for bad . They mentioned an SHM flavor of screen >>>>> which we may need to look into. Once your start the screen, they mention >>>>> running the following command to see whether you have shared memory >>>>> active: >>>>> ipcs -m >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, once we get a compatible version of screen, we’ll be more than >>>>> half way there. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to use screen-4.0.1 and there are also patches you have to >>>>>> apply which are contained in the brltty source which you must download >>>>>> using subversion. I will really try to update the instructions I wrote >>>>>> several years ago and post them in the next few days. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>>> never ceases; >>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> I’m looking at building brltty on the mac. The first problem is >>>>>>> compiling a version of screen with shared memory. I don’t think the >>>>>>> version which comes with the os in /usr/bin supports shared memory . I >>>>>>> installed the version of screen from macports, but don’t think the >>>>>>> result is any better even though it appears to include the shared >>>>>>> memory patch from brltty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any other insights are welcome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 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