Ok, Nic. Go ahead and send it to me off list, and I'll see what happens when I 
try it. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:16 AM, Nicholas Parsons <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> HI Gigi,
> 
> I was using PDFPen. I downloaded the trial version of PDFPen Pro, and at 
> first it seemed to be exactly the same. VoiceOver could see the text areas, 
> but I couldn't seem to type text into them. Then I noticed that although 
> VoiceOver wasn't reading the text I typed, it appeared to be showing on 
> screen. I could bring the mouse pointer, and although VoiceOver wouldn't 
> announce any typed text under the mouse pointer, if I do a control click with 
> the TrackPad it offers to look up the word I typed or offers spelling 
> suggestions if I typed gibberish. So seems I can type, but the typed text is 
> invisible to VoiceOver. Also, when I am focussed on the text areas, VoiceOver 
> announces keyboard focus to be on "empty scroll area".
> 
> I might email you the form off list and see if we can get anywhere. Just 
> thought I'd send this on the list in case anyone else becomes interested in 
> this issue.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nic
> 
> On 15 Jan 2014, at 1:10 pm, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> Did you download the pro version of PDF pen? I just realized that that may 
>> be the difference. I have the pro version on my computer. When I did the 
>> 1040, I was not having those problems. If you want, can you send me the file 
>> off list and I'll see if I can make it work.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gigi,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that. I downloaded the trial from their website.
>>> 
>>> I tried reading a PDF I know has been made into an editable/fillable form 
>>> with screen readers in mind. It works with JAWS on Windows and I believe it 
>>> was probably created with Adobe software. In PDFPen VoiceOver could see and 
>>> would read out the form fields, but the text areas would not be editable. 
>>> So VoiceOver would say, for instance, "Date edit text", but if I tried 
>>> typing nothing would happen.
>>> 
>>> Is there some trick to being able to fill in these forms? I noticed a whole 
>>> heap of unlabelled buttons and checkboxes, and thought perhaps I need to 
>>> configure one of these. If it's just that the form I'm using doesn't have 
>>> what PDFPen and VoiceOver require, do you know what the magic ingredient is?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> P.S. I tried the above on both Mavericks and Mountain Lion.
>>> 
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