I believe that setting you are thinking of is in Gmail. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone
> On 22 Jan 2014, at 13:06, "Christina C." <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is a setting i use to automatically delete messages in my sent > folder/label after 30 days. I am sure this setting is in apple mail but I > cannot remember if it is also in gmail. It seems like I remember this setting > in gmail. This is how I keep my sent folder from growing so large. :) I do > not archive though, I delete so my deleted messages are truly gone and not > simply labeled as archive. > > Christina > Sent from Christina's iMac :) > >> On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at >> Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in >> my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will >> this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail >> folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will >> still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good >> mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. >>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail >>> actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. >>> It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other >>> mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech >>> support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand >>> what Gmail actually does. >>> >>> In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder >>> called all mail. This folder contains every email message. >>> >>> What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and >>> learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any >>> messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which >>> match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and >>> handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just >>> manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual >>> folder. >>> >>> In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only >>> one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access >>> it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the >>> message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should >>> move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message >>> is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a >>> message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains >>> in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy >>> a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message >>> remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. >>> >>> Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try >>> and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support >>> person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual >>> mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you >>> have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person >>> on something which is extremely confusing. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is >>>> not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately >>>> didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my >>>> gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why >>>> Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. >>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after >>>>> the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email >>>>> problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This >>>>> is the nature of programming and bugs. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon >>>>>> quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have >>>>>> never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a >>>>>> problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the >>>>>> gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust >>>>>> anything you hear anymore. >>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in >>>>>>> the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail >>>>>>> outside the gmail account, its gone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but >>>>>>> gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to >>>>>>> see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which >>>>>>> takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>> The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant >>>>>>> duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you >>>>>>> say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you >>>>>>> dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. >>>>>>> --Boris Pasternak >>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey Nicholas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked >>>>>>>> at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the >>>>>>>> heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years >>>>>>>> ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some >>>>>>>> sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I >>>>>>>> find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around >>>>>>>> for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, >>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Bryan, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? >>>>>>>>> Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or >>>>>>>>> hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There >>>>>>>>> seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the >>>>>>>>> tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But >>>>>>>>> what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download >>>>>>>>> and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have >>>>>>>>> plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people >>>>>>>>> even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after >>>>>>>>> recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with >>>>>>>>> command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail >>>>>>>>> server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a >>>>>>>>> reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac >>>>>>>>> online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This >>>>>>>>> seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close >>>>>>>>> every application and stop as many other online services as you can >>>>>>>>> from operating, then just open Mail and leave >>>>>>> your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just >>>>>>> leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. >>>>>>> Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. >>>>>>> Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making >>>>>>> progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best of luck, >>>>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with >>>>>>>>>> Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working >>>>>>>>>> fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to >>>>>>>>>> their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem >>>>>>>>>> wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session >>>>>>>>>> with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by >>>>>>>>>> my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check >>>>>>>>>> settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that >>>>>>>>>> did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the >>>>>>>>>> mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of >>>>>>>>>> instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. >>>>>>>>>> So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy >>>>>>>>>> busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if >>>>>>>>>> mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail >>>>>>>>>> worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an >>>>>>> gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December >>>>>>> fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off >>>>>>> upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how >>>>>>> they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but >>>>>>>>>> this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any >>>>>>>>>> suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did >>>>>>>>>> nothing either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and >>>>>>>>>> figured out a fix would love to hear it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for listening. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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