Yes, but it is not just VO. Bye had similar problems when I used Windows systems. Google regularly has problems with screenreader access.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:21, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their > gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it > reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find > the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very > frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work > with VO. >> On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One >> of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It >> means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the >> message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it >> assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 >> email messages since 2005. >> >> The solution is: go to >> www.gmail.com >> and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I >> do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted >> messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another >> setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail >> can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found >> occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. >> >> I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I >> occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this >> on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to >> 44,000 messages at this point. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Nicholas, >>> >>> Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at >>> this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is >>> this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there >>> a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance >>> to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu >>> to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where >>> it is. Thanks, >>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Bryan, >>>> >>>> First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? >>>> Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or >>>> hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. >>>> >>>> Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. >>>> >>>> I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There >>>> seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech >>>> community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I >>>> think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and >>>> reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of >>>> messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have >>>> hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing >>>> Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll >>>> notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and >>>> downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this >>>> can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing >>>> else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. >>>> So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online >>>> services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac >>>> online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and >>>> don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your >>>> energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail >>>> activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems >>>> to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. >>>> >>>> Best of luck, >>>> Nic >>>> >>>>> On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> >>>>> Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with >>>>> Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I >>>>> had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their >>>>> VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail >>>>> and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the >>>>> specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from >>>>> go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was >>>>> constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system >>>>> repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to >>>>> go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer >>>>> user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I >>>>> launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from >>>>> mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough >>>>> mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers >>>>> me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed >>>>> the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to >>>>> Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the >>>>> issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. >>>>> >>>>> I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this >>>>> was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>>> I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. 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