I have never had thisissue. I am currently using Tom because he sounds the most human to me. Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > > I tried using Fred for a while. I didn't notice stuttering, but it is a very > random problem anyway. However, the overall sluggishness of the system > persisted. Good thought though, thanks for the suggestion. >> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey Daniel, >> >> Yup you are right, I can't stand the compact voices. I do have multiple >> voices installed and the sluggishness is with all of them. I am not even >> sure how I would revert to the compact voices, will have to look in to it >> the next time the skipping words happens. >>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Bryan, I am really sorry you seem to be experiencing such awful chopping >>> issues under Mavericks and VO. >>> The only time I have had this occurred with me is when I power up my late >>> 2011 MBP I get VO stuttering as it were through the standard "Welcome to OS >>> 10. Voiceover is on." This is using the higher quality voice. >>> After this things settle down for me. The only suggestion I have and if it >>> doesn't work then I am sorry I am unable to think of any other ideas to >>> solve your problem except from the dreaded re-install already mentioned. >>> Have you tried using the compact voices to see if that fixes the lag? >>> I have found that when I used the Compact Daniel voice I got no lag with >>> the welcome message announced by Voiceover at the log on screen. >>> Of course, I'm aware that people yourself maybe included, may not like the >>> compact versions but this is just a testing method as it were to see if the >>> problem occurs with the compact version. >>> >>> Good luck and please do report back even if you've already tried this out. >>> >>> Daniel >>>> On 24 Jan 2014, at 21:34, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I know a clean install is not usually necessary, but I can't think of >>>> anything else to try. I have: >>>> >>>> * uninstalled Soundflower, which reports suggest can cause audio processes >>>> to run constantly and eat CPU power like crazy >>>> * repaired disk permissions multiple times, the most recent from Safe Mode >>>> so I was sure to get everything >>>> * reset the PRAM >>>> * turned Time Machine off >>>> * turned Speakable Items off >>>> * looked for runaway processes, and found none since I removed Soundflower >>>> >>>> My machine ran fine under Mountain Lion, especially after I gave it 8gb of >>>> ram to play with. It is a 2011 Mini, and a low-end CPU, but, again, it ran >>>> fine four months ago and only has problems now. I hate to revert to >>>> Mountain Lion since there are features of Mavericks I enjoy (tagging, the >>>> new iCloud features, new VO voices, and more). More to the point, though, >>>> I shouldn't have to. Most everyone on this list seems to have gotten the >>>> same or better performance out of Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion, >>>> it's just us lucky few that are running into problems. >>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't think this is a Mavericks/vo problem per se or at least all by >>>>> itself; there would apparently seem to be some other variable along with >>>>> Mavericks and vo that is triggering this since there are many people who >>>>> are not experiencing the problem along with those who are. I upgraded to >>>>> Mavericks on both my iMac and Macbook Air; I have chosen to go back to >>>>> Mountain Lion on the iMac and may do so on the Macbook Air but neither >>>>> computer had the choppy voiceover problem. If Mavericks is indeed one >>>>> component in why this is happening, maybe you should back up needed files >>>>> and reinstall Mountain Lion. I used superduper to back up both my >>>>> Mavericks and Mountain Lion installation and repaired permissions on both >>>>> (had to switch to the Mountain Lion external to do its permissions). Then >>>>> from the Mountain Lion external drive I ran superduper to put Mountain >>>>> Lion back on the hard drive. I then went through the Mavericks drive and >>>>> copied needed files over that were not on the Mountain Lion drive. >>>>> Finally, I erased the Mavericks backup and started Time Machine on it. >>>>> Sounds complicated but really wasn't bad. Of course if you no longer have >>>>> a Mountain Lion installation or Time Machine backup you will have to >>>>> reinstall Mountain Lion. It seems to me, though, that if Mavericks is >>>>> really a component of the problem and you don't want to waste time again >>>>> if a reinstallation produces the same choppiness, going back to Mountain >>>>> Lion would be a quicker solution if your work productivity depends on >>>>> having things work asap. Just my thoughts; I know different people have >>>>> different approaches with this. I think if your Mac is new and came with >>>>> Mavericks you can't put Mountain Lion on but I could be wrong about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheryl >>>>> >>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>> And now, every day: >>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>> never ceases; >>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah VO worked for two hours without the choppiness but now is back to >>>>>> being ridiculously choppy it is so bad that when you type an email it >>>>>> tells you are word is spelled wrong mid word because VO gets caught or >>>>>> something. Very disappointed with Mavericks and VO. I am a Apple >>>>>> loyalist but I am definitely very disappointed with Apple and the lack >>>>>> of quality in this release. >>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian, just so you know, you're not alone. While I can usually read >>>>>>> things fine, VO has also returned to the occasional choppy, broken >>>>>>> speech I have been dealing with ever since Mavericks. Apps are also >>>>>>> still slow to load, and more and more often, emails take longer and >>>>>>> longer to open. My sister just installed Mavericks and loves how "it's >>>>>>> so much faster than Mountain Lion!" Well, she's lucky, because 10.9 was >>>>>>> a step backward for me, and apparently you as well. Let us know if the >>>>>>> reinstall helps, as that is looking like my only option as well, as >>>>>>> much as I hate to say it. >>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives >>>>>>>> then do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive >>>>>>>> your OS was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, >>>>>>>> but, well worth the effort. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>>> blind built-in! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 >>>>>>>> user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to >>>>>>>>> work I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver >>>>>>>>> problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for two >>>>>>>>> days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when >>>>>>>>> reading anything. Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one >>>>>>>>> program where the choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the >>>>>>>>> way through without having to use VO and the arrows for all the words >>>>>>>>> I can't understand or VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple >>>>>>>>> customer support and yeah VO just crapped out as I typed the word >>>>>>>>> support I have enough RAM for what I am doing, and they are clueless >>>>>>>>> to what the issue can be. 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