yes, tom is very good. I am using tom to. cheers.
A dignidade pessoal e a honra não podem ser protegidas por outros. Devem ser zeladas pelo indivíduo em particular. Mohandas Gandhi Mario Navarro [email protected] No dia 25/01/2014, às 00:12, Jessica D <[email protected]> escreveu: > I have never had thisissue. I am currently using Tom because he sounds the > most human to me. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I tried using Fred for a while. I didn't notice stuttering, but it is a very >> random problem anyway. However, the overall sluggishness of the system >> persisted. Good thought though, thanks for the suggestion. >>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Daniel, >>> >>> Yup you are right, I can't stand the compact voices. I do have multiple >>> voices installed and the sluggishness is with all of them. I am not even >>> sure how I would revert to the compact voices, will have to look in to it >>> the next time the skipping words happens. >>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Bryan, I am really sorry you seem to be experiencing such awful chopping >>>> issues under Mavericks and VO. >>>> The only time I have had this occurred with me is when I power up my late >>>> 2011 MBP I get VO stuttering as it were through the standard "Welcome to >>>> OS 10. Voiceover is on." This is using the higher quality voice. >>>> After this things settle down for me. The only suggestion I have and if it >>>> doesn't work then I am sorry I am unable to think of any other ideas to >>>> solve your problem except from the dreaded re-install already mentioned. >>>> Have you tried using the compact voices to see if that fixes the lag? >>>> I have found that when I used the Compact Daniel voice I got no lag with >>>> the welcome message announced by Voiceover at the log on screen. >>>> Of course, I'm aware that people yourself maybe included, may not like the >>>> compact versions but this is just a testing method as it were to see if >>>> the problem occurs with the compact version. >>>> >>>> Good luck and please do report back even if you've already tried this out. >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>>> On 24 Jan 2014, at 21:34, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know a clean install is not usually necessary, but I can't think of >>>>> anything else to try. I have: >>>>> >>>>> * uninstalled Soundflower, which reports suggest can cause audio >>>>> processes to run constantly and eat CPU power like crazy >>>>> * repaired disk permissions multiple times, the most recent from Safe >>>>> Mode so I was sure to get everything >>>>> * reset the PRAM >>>>> * turned Time Machine off >>>>> * turned Speakable Items off >>>>> * looked for runaway processes, and found none since I removed Soundflower >>>>> >>>>> My machine ran fine under Mountain Lion, especially after I gave it 8gb >>>>> of ram to play with. It is a 2011 Mini, and a low-end CPU, but, again, it >>>>> ran fine four months ago and only has problems now. I hate to revert to >>>>> Mountain Lion since there are features of Mavericks I enjoy (tagging, the >>>>> new iCloud features, new VO voices, and more). More to the point, though, >>>>> I shouldn't have to. Most everyone on this list seems to have gotten the >>>>> same or better performance out of Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion, >>>>> it's just us lucky few that are running into problems. >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think this is a Mavericks/vo problem per se or at least all by >>>>>> itself; there would apparently seem to be some other variable along with >>>>>> Mavericks and vo that is triggering this since there are many people who >>>>>> are not experiencing the problem along with those who are. I upgraded to >>>>>> Mavericks on both my iMac and Macbook Air; I have chosen to go back to >>>>>> Mountain Lion on the iMac and may do so on the Macbook Air but neither >>>>>> computer had the choppy voiceover problem. If Mavericks is indeed one >>>>>> component in why this is happening, maybe you should back up needed >>>>>> files and reinstall Mountain Lion. I used superduper to back up both my >>>>>> Mavericks and Mountain Lion installation and repaired permissions on >>>>>> both (had to switch to the Mountain Lion external to do its >>>>>> permissions). Then from the Mountain Lion external drive I ran >>>>>> superduper to put Mountain Lion back on the hard drive. I then went >>>>>> through the Mavericks drive and copied needed files over that were not >>>>>> on the Mountain Lion drive. Finally, I erased the Mavericks backup and >>>>>> started Time Machine on it. Sounds complicated but really wasn't bad. Of >>>>>> course if you no longer have a Mountain Lion installation or Time >>>>>> Machine backup you will have to reinstall Mountain Lion. It seems to me, >>>>>> though, that if Mavericks is really a component of the problem and you >>>>>> don't want to waste time again if a reinstallation produces the same >>>>>> choppiness, going back to Mountain Lion would be a quicker solution if >>>>>> your work productivity depends on having things work asap. Just my >>>>>> thoughts; I know different people have different approaches with this. I >>>>>> think if your Mac is new and came with Mavericks you can't put Mountain >>>>>> Lion on but I could be wrong about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>>> never ceases; >>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah VO worked for two hours without the choppiness but now is back to >>>>>>> being ridiculously choppy it is so bad that when you type an email it >>>>>>> tells you are word is spelled wrong mid word because VO gets caught or >>>>>>> something. Very disappointed with Mavericks and VO. I am a Apple >>>>>>> loyalist but I am definitely very disappointed with Apple and the lack >>>>>>> of quality in this release. >>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brian, just so you know, you're not alone. While I can usually read >>>>>>>> things fine, VO has also returned to the occasional choppy, broken >>>>>>>> speech I have been dealing with ever since Mavericks. Apps are also >>>>>>>> still slow to load, and more and more often, emails take longer and >>>>>>>> longer to open. My sister just installed Mavericks and loves how "it's >>>>>>>> so much faster than Mountain Lion!" Well, she's lucky, because 10.9 >>>>>>>> was a step backward for me, and apparently you as well. Let us know if >>>>>>>> the reinstall helps, as that is looking like my only option as well, >>>>>>>> as much as I hate to say it. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives >>>>>>>>> then do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive >>>>>>>>> your OS was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, >>>>>>>>> but, well worth the effort. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>>>> blind built-in! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 >>>>>>>>> user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to >>>>>>>>>> work I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver >>>>>>>>>> problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for >>>>>>>>>> two days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when >>>>>>>>>> reading anything. Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one >>>>>>>>>> program where the choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the >>>>>>>>>> way through without having to use VO and the arrows for all the >>>>>>>>>> words I can't understand or VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple >>>>>>>>>> customer support and yeah VO just crapped out as I typed the word >>>>>>>>>> support I have enough RAM for what I am doing, and they are clueless >>>>>>>>>> to what the issue can be. 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