Hi, I am experiencing this periodic choppiness in speech and even sluggish response from VO. Restarting VO helps sometimes but sometimes it doesn’t. When it is at its worst, I also hear fan noise as though my laptop were running hot or some process is eating up all my CPU. Any tips of what to look for in activity monitor?
Thanks, Greg On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Jessica D <jldai...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have never had thisissue. I am currently using Tom because he sounds the > most human to me. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I tried using Fred for a while. I didn't notice stuttering, but it is a very >> random problem anyway. However, the overall sluggishness of the system >> persisted. Good thought though, thanks for the suggestion. >>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Daniel, >>> >>> Yup you are right, I can't stand the compact voices. I do have multiple >>> voices installed and the sluggishness is with all of them. I am not even >>> sure how I would revert to the compact voices, will have to look in to it >>> the next time the skipping words happens. >>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Bryan, I am really sorry you seem to be experiencing such awful chopping >>>> issues under Mavericks and VO. >>>> The only time I have had this occurred with me is when I power up my late >>>> 2011 MBP I get VO stuttering as it were through the standard "Welcome to >>>> OS 10. Voiceover is on." This is using the higher quality voice. >>>> After this things settle down for me. The only suggestion I have and if it >>>> doesn't work then I am sorry I am unable to think of any other ideas to >>>> solve your problem except from the dreaded re-install already mentioned. >>>> Have you tried using the compact voices to see if that fixes the lag? >>>> I have found that when I used the Compact Daniel voice I got no lag with >>>> the welcome message announced by Voiceover at the log on screen. >>>> Of course, I'm aware that people yourself maybe included, may not like the >>>> compact versions but this is just a testing method as it were to see if >>>> the problem occurs with the compact version. >>>> >>>> Good luck and please do report back even if you've already tried this out. >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>>> On 24 Jan 2014, at 21:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know a clean install is not usually necessary, but I can't think of >>>>> anything else to try. I have: >>>>> >>>>> * uninstalled Soundflower, which reports suggest can cause audio >>>>> processes to run constantly and eat CPU power like crazy >>>>> * repaired disk permissions multiple times, the most recent from Safe >>>>> Mode so I was sure to get everything >>>>> * reset the PRAM >>>>> * turned Time Machine off >>>>> * turned Speakable Items off >>>>> * looked for runaway processes, and found none since I removed Soundflower >>>>> >>>>> My machine ran fine under Mountain Lion, especially after I gave it 8gb >>>>> of ram to play with. It is a 2011 Mini, and a low-end CPU, but, again, it >>>>> ran fine four months ago and only has problems now. I hate to revert to >>>>> Mountain Lion since there are features of Mavericks I enjoy (tagging, the >>>>> new iCloud features, new VO voices, and more). More to the point, though, >>>>> I shouldn't have to. Most everyone on this list seems to have gotten the >>>>> same or better performance out of Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion, >>>>> it's just us lucky few that are running into problems. >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think this is a Mavericks/vo problem per se or at least all by >>>>>> itself; there would apparently seem to be some other variable along with >>>>>> Mavericks and vo that is triggering this since there are many people who >>>>>> are not experiencing the problem along with those who are. I upgraded to >>>>>> Mavericks on both my iMac and Macbook Air; I have chosen to go back to >>>>>> Mountain Lion on the iMac and may do so on the Macbook Air but neither >>>>>> computer had the choppy voiceover problem. If Mavericks is indeed one >>>>>> component in why this is happening, maybe you should back up needed >>>>>> files and reinstall Mountain Lion. I used superduper to back up both my >>>>>> Mavericks and Mountain Lion installation and repaired permissions on >>>>>> both (had to switch to the Mountain Lion external to do its >>>>>> permissions). Then from the Mountain Lion external drive I ran >>>>>> superduper to put Mountain Lion back on the hard drive. I then went >>>>>> through the Mavericks drive and copied needed files over that were not >>>>>> on the Mountain Lion drive. Finally, I erased the Mavericks backup and >>>>>> started Time Machine on it. Sounds complicated but really wasn't bad. Of >>>>>> course if you no longer have a Mountain Lion installation or Time >>>>>> Machine backup you will have to reinstall Mountain Lion. It seems to me, >>>>>> though, that if Mavericks is really a component of the problem and you >>>>>> don't want to waste time again if a reinstallation produces the same >>>>>> choppiness, going back to Mountain Lion would be a quicker solution if >>>>>> your work productivity depends on having things work asap. Just my >>>>>> thoughts; I know different people have different approaches with this. I >>>>>> think if your Mac is new and came with Mavericks you can't put Mountain >>>>>> Lion on but I could be wrong about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>>> never ceases; >>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah VO worked for two hours without the choppiness but now is back to >>>>>>> being ridiculously choppy it is so bad that when you type an email it >>>>>>> tells you are word is spelled wrong mid word because VO gets caught or >>>>>>> something. Very disappointed with Mavericks and VO. I am a Apple >>>>>>> loyalist but I am definitely very disappointed with Apple and the lack >>>>>>> of quality in this release. >>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brian, just so you know, you're not alone. While I can usually read >>>>>>>> things fine, VO has also returned to the occasional choppy, broken >>>>>>>> speech I have been dealing with ever since Mavericks. Apps are also >>>>>>>> still slow to load, and more and more often, emails take longer and >>>>>>>> longer to open. My sister just installed Mavericks and loves how "it's >>>>>>>> so much faster than Mountain Lion!" Well, she's lucky, because 10.9 >>>>>>>> was a step backward for me, and apparently you as well. Let us know if >>>>>>>> the reinstall helps, as that is looking like my only option as well, >>>>>>>> as much as I hate to say it. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives >>>>>>>>> then do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive >>>>>>>>> your OS was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, >>>>>>>>> but, well worth the effort. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>>>> blind built-in! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 >>>>>>>>> user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to >>>>>>>>>> work I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver >>>>>>>>>> problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for >>>>>>>>>> two days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when >>>>>>>>>> reading anything. Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one >>>>>>>>>> program where the choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the >>>>>>>>>> way through without having to use VO and the arrows for all the >>>>>>>>>> words I can't understand or VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple >>>>>>>>>> customer support and yeah VO just crapped out as I typed the word >>>>>>>>>> support I have enough RAM for what I am doing, and they are clueless >>>>>>>>>> to what the issue can be. 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