#778: upgrading madwifi, ubuntu breaks wireless on thinkpad
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      Reporter:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |       Owner:                              
          Type:  defect                |      Status:  new                      
   
      Priority:  major                 |   Milestone:                           
   
     Component:  madwifi: other        |     Version:  trunk                    
   
    Resolution:                        |    Keywords:  ubuntu, thinkpad, 
regression
Patch_attached:  0                     |  
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Changes (by mrenzmann):

  * milestone:  version 0.9.2 =>

Comment:

 Please: don't assign a new ticket to a milestone until you know exactly
 what you are doing. The reported issues surely won't be addressed in
 release 0.9.2 (which will be released during the next hours). In fact,
 they are not even classified and I'm not sure if they are bugs in MadWifi
 at all.

 Furthermore, support requests should be directed to the appropriate
 [wiki:Resources#MailingLists mailing lists] rather than filing a ticket
 for it (unless it's clear that the report is dealing with a real bug).

 Anyway:

 {{{
 #!blockquote
 Specifically, DHCP to a hub sitting ten centimeters away is successful but
 only a small fraction of ping packets to the hub receive a response; I
 expect every packet to receive a response.
 }}}
 Your WLAN card can not communicate directly with hubs (which are wire-
 bound devices, in contrast to the wire-less stuff that WLAN deals with).
 However, I think you have just accidentally chosen the wrong term and
 actually referred to an Access Point (AP).

 In that case you should take care that the distance between the AP and its
 clients should not become too low, otherwise the [wiki:FAQ/SignalTooStrong
 signal is too strong], the receiving card in the clients become saturated
 and it will suffer from a horrible throughput. Seeing a high number of
 lost pings is one of the related symptoms, for example.

 {{{
 #!blockquote
 DHCP to farther-away hubs receives no response; I expect it to pick up an
 IP address.
 }}}
 It's a bit unclear if your setup is sufficient for DHCP. For example, you
 didn't mention which DHCP client software you are running, and if there is
 actually a DHCP server reachable through the AP you're connecting to.

 A [wiki:UserDocs/Troubleshooting#IcannotgetanIPwithDHCP common problem] in
 this context is that the DHCP client gets started before the WLAN card has
 properly associated with the AP. As a comparisson: you surely would not
 expect to see a successful DHCP request/response sequence without having
 your computer's ethernet card being connected properly with your network.

 A more detailed description of your setup surely would help to determine
 if the common requirements are met.

 {{{
 #!blockquote
 What tools are available for debugging wireless problems?
 }}}
 In addition to what Kel already said, it might be worth to have a look at
 the man pages of ''athdebug'' and ''80211debug''. The common
 [http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html wireless
 tools] are useful for roughly determining the link quality and stuff like
 that. Having a network sniffer available, sitting between AP and DHCP
 server, might also be a good idea in case your diving deeper into
 debugging your issues.

 --- M. Renzmann, Development and technical administration, madwifi.org
 project

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Ticket URL: <http://madwifi.org/ticket/778>
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