I totally agree that what we have now is a step forward from what we had
before. My proposal was just my idea of what the next step should look like
;-).

Am I reading you right that you support my proposed changes?

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Yann Hodique <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Philip Jackson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yann - what do you think?
>
> Hi, sorry for the delays it's kind of crazy at the moment :)
>
> Basically I'd like to stress the fact that the extensions API is
> actually *not* an API. It's some kind of POC, covering only the things
> that were required to be able to split things out of magit "core".
> So I totally agree that it probably does not cover at all extension
> writers needs. Now, in my view, it's only a first step towards a
> cleaner interface, that must be grown according to some real use
> cases. magit-svn and magit-topic are only providing basic ones.
>
> Still I personally see the current situation as a (little) progress,
> compared to the previous one: it's now actually possible to generate
> magit-like interface from the outside of magit (which was impossible
> due to both the absence of hooks and the use of "static" macros).
> So once again, the only goal of this first step was to break the
> barrier. Next step is to make it cleanly. In this regard, I'd say that
> developing an extension outside of the magit repository right now *is*
> premature ;)
> Then, and only then we might see an ecosystem of extensions grow. I'm
> thinking of the non-SVN vcs support, an interface for repo (android)
> would be great, and some integration with patchwork (used for example
> by org-mode for patch review) could definitely be used.
>
> I totally agree the shape of extensions currently sucks (except for
> the inserter/actions definition part, which looks just like regular
> inserter code, so I guess it's mostly right). I think in the near
> future, they should probably turned into minor-modes.
> Having a quick look at Nathan's proposal, I think that should include
> what's in there, solve the activation/deactivation issue (which also
> totally sucks) and even allow a per-project setting (which I'd like a
> lot).
>
> I have to admit that for my needs, the inserter code was clearly the
> main target (I need to display different things in magit-status, from
> extensions). The rest was only required side-effect, so it's
> definitely not polished.
> From what I understand, Nathan's focus is more on the minor-mode
> aspects. So I see no fundamental incompatibility in all this. Quite
> the contrary actually, and I'm pretty happy to see that chances are we
> might end up having something really nice.
> All we need is code :)
>
> Yann.
>

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