On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:16:08 +0200 (Romance Daylight Time) Vadim Zeitlin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
VZ> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:02:00 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) "Eric S.
VZ> Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
VZ> 
VZ>  No, thanks for the detailed description - I see it as well. And I agree
VZ> that it's really weird. I guess I hadn't noticed it before because I didn't
VZ> use "More".

I think it's more that my using software is like the Monty Python sketch where
the piranha brothers are shaking down a British base commander for protection
money on all of his tanks, airplanes, etc. I'm like the clumsy piranha brother. 
You see, when I'm around software, "things break".  and since you don't want
anything "unfortunate" to happen to your software, I'm sure you can see the
value in purchasing "insurance" to "protect" your software...

;-)

VZ>  I'm afraid this will have to wait until I finally upgrade to W2K. I know
VZ> it handles the top level window activation differently but not exactly how.

this actually might be a wxwindows problem.  There are an awful lot of redraws
even if the window isn't covered.

VZ> 
VZ> ESJ> Figure out how to move the sent mailbox to IMAP
VZ> 
VZ>  This should be easy: simply choose an IMAP folder in the "Compose" page
VZ> setting.

OK, I'll give that a shot.

VZ> 
VZ> ESJ> experiment with, and report bugs on multiple identities ;-)
VZ> 
VZ>  Looking forward to this :-)

so far nothing that has turned up.  I have noticed that there are some curious
things about environment set up that don't do what I expect but I've been so
busy beating my head against cyrus imap that I haven't had much time for
notetaking or experimentation.

you know, it just occurred to me that maybe I didn't set up the identity
correctly and maybe it only has effect

VZ> 
VZ> ESJ> convince you to move the IMAP INBOX to the very first item in the IMAP
VZ> server
VZ> ESJ> list of mailboxes.
VZ> 
VZ>  You're probably thinking about the bug 404
VZ> 
VZ>         http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/show_bug.cgi?id=404

that is the general case of what I was asking for.  If you do that,
you may want to preset the order to include the inbox being top of list.

VZ> 
VZ> ESJ> Figure out how to drive this mail client from NaturallySpeaking
VZ> ESJ> without losing tons of mail or sending out partially completed
VZ> ESJ> messages with embarrassing misrecognitions.  (Yes, that has happened
VZ> ESJ> to me with Eudora)
VZ> 
VZ>  I have no idea about this as I've never used speach recognition tools but
VZ> if you have any specific UI fixes needed by this, please let us know.

so far, nothing comes to mind except for an interface to every single user
accessible function.  That way I can write my own code to create a speech
user interface.

now for some more bugs:

I'm getting inconsistent behavior of when Emacs is invoked as the editor
vs. the built-in editor.  It's probably a UI oops based on where I set the
flags so I'm going to do some more experimentation.

Filter rules don't always work.  As you can probably guess, I have a bunch
of them but I'm noticing that they aren't always working.  The pattern is
this:

Mahogany polls the inbox.
I see new e-mail and some of it should have been filtered (moved) to other
mailboxes.
I select all of the mail in my inbox (ctrl-a) and run the filter rules.
sometimes all the mail is moved as it should be other times, it is copied
and the mail is left marked as deleted and I need to manually expunge the
deleted mail.

I've also started seeing crashes again.  I've had three today and all of
them seem to happen at the end of the inbox poll+filter cycle.  I will
admit to them catching me by surprise so I'll need to pay closer attention
to give you a better clue on the failure.

I've also had problems with copying files manually to my missed spam
folder.  I use Spamassassin to eliminate most of my
e-mail..err..unsolicited commercial e-mail and occasionally it misses.  So
I move the spam to my "missed spam" mailbox where it is reported to razor
as spam.  About one-third of the time, the move fails but if I try again,
it succeeds.  I have attached the log in case that is useful.

09:09:04: Connection to the folder 'IMAP Server/00missedspam' lost unexpectedly.
09:09:04: Could not open mailbox 'IMAP Server/00missedspam'.
09:09:04: Cannot save messages to folder 'IMAP Server/00missedspam'.
09:09:04: Failed to save messages to the folder 'IMAP Server/00missedspam'.
09:09:04: Moving messages failed.


on the user interface side, when you try to drag-and-drop a piece of mail,
you need to get a better icon because it's far bigger than the mailbox
listings and I've frequently dropped messages in the wrong mailbox.  You
need to do something to indicate targeting better.

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