Am Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:27:41 +0100 (Romance Standard Time) schrieb (Vadim Zeitlin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:53:47 +0100 (CET) Martin Jost
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]=
> e> wrote:
>
> MJ> now the count of untranslated and fuzzy translation is down to less
> MJ> than 100.
>
> Great! It is especially nice that you updated the German translation
> because Mahogany should be on the CD included with the German magazine
> PC-Welt (do you know it?) and maybe I'll be able to sneak the new
> translations there.
I've seen the question for permission.
And yes, this speeded up my decision to push it out the way it is.
(I'm afraid that the remaining "10%" will take more than 90% of my time
already spent on that...
And in addition, I pushed some other things down on my priority stack,
which now start to get rather urgent....)
(Could you download both files ok this time ?)
> MJ> If someone has an idea for those please tell me !
> Unfortunately not me :-/ I can only try to give more context.
I'm mostly hoping for the native German speakers....
> MJ> [I'll send a second mail with all of those problems]
> MJ>=20
> MJ> away-mode =3D> Abwesend ? "Niemand da" ? "Benutzer abwesend" ?
>
> This is the mode in which the user is considered to be away from the
> computer and so Mahogany behaves silently.
Yes, got that. (I _think_ I got the meaning of all those words. But I'm
searching for a clear (and short !) german word for it)
But getting another look at the context will make things easier I hope...
> MJ> # Blank before %s missing ???
> MJ> #: PGPClickInfo.h:148
> MJ> msgid "PGP public key not found%s"
>
> No, this is on purpose because "%s" may expand into an empty string.
> And,
> conversely, the strings it may expand to all [should] have a leading
> blank.
Ah. So I have to recheck. I missed it here...
> MJ> If possible, please write full sentences each time for the sake of
> the =
> translators !
>
> Yes, you're right. I'm afraid there are quite a few places where I
> didn't think about the translations.
I can well imagine, that there are so many tings to consider, that this
gets lost sometimes. Then I will step in to remind you ;-)
> MJ> # First %s: 'part' || ''
> MJ> #: classes/MessageView.cpp:2807
> MJ> msgid ""
> MJ> "The selected message%s is %u Kbytes long which is more than the
> curren=
> t threshold of %d Kbytes.\n"
> MJ> "\n"
> MJ> "Do you still want to download it?"
> MJ>=20
> MJ> In German:
> MJ> Der gew=E4hlte Teil der Nachricht ...
> MJ> Die gew=E4hlte Nachricht ...
> MJ> =3D=3D=3D--- note the difference !
>
> Err, sorry, I can't -- what is it?
"Der" vs. "Die" (and this can't be stuffed into the %s-part)
> And, more importantly, how do you think
> the message should be changed to make the translation better?
The "usual" cure. Two seperate sentences.
1. "The selected message is %u Kbytes long which is more than the...
2. "The selected messagepart is %u Kbytes long which is more than the...
Then those problems can be sorted out indepent in the translation
> MJ> # INBOX (Name of folder in the tree) can't be translated ??
> MJ> #: gui/wxFolderTree.cpp:1904
> MJ> msgid "INBOX folder is a special folder used by the mail system and
> can=
> not be renamed."
>
> No, translating INBOX is not supported.
Ok, accepted.
> MJ> # "failed to (save|retrieve) remote configuration (to|from)
> 'Foldername=
> '."
> MJ> # 'to' (%s Nr. 2) shows up three times !
> MJ> # it must be translated as 'an' twice and as 'in' here
> MJ> # Das (Holen/Speichern) der Konfiguration (aus/in) %s ist gescheitert
> MJ> # (von/an)
> MJ> #
> MJ> #: gui/wxOptionsDlg.cpp:3630
> MJ> msgid "Failed to %s remote configuration %s '%s'."
>
> I've split this into 2 separate messages -- is it better now?
I haven't seen the messages right now. But this should cure it.
> MJ> # CANCEL-Button for this dialog is in English and doesn't seem to
> chang=
> e
> MJ> #: util/upgrade.cpp:749
> MJ> msgid ""
> MJ> "Welcome to Mahogany!\n"
> MJ> "\n"
>
> The button is created by wxWindows itself, so maybe its message catalog
> is
> not installed (or found) on your system? It does have [reasonably
> complete]
> German translation AFAIK.
The message catalog seems to be found. (German translations e.g. in the
choose-file-dialog. I've seen this, because I discovered one funny
translation here and at first glance thought it to be my mistake...)
[... some fixed problems skipped ...]
> MJ> All the drop-down list entries in the filter dialog didn't get
> translat=
> ed
> MJ> The rest of the dialog is translated.
> MJ> (I checked the source, to see that I didn't mess with the msgid for
> the
> MJ> translations)
>
> Oops, there is indeed a problem here, thanks for noticing it! I've just
> fixed it (could you please test?).
I will do so.
BTW: Could the compose window be affected by a similar problem ?
I just noticed that the drop-down lists (To/CC/BCC...) aren't translated,
although the translations are in the .po-file.
> MJ> # There are several examples, where this [mailbox <=> folder] seems
> to be mixed up in Mahogany
>
> I'm afraid so :-( If you could make a patch fixing them all at once, I'd
> be grateful -- although, of course, this is less urgent than actually
> translating the messages.
You mean a patch for the messages _in_ _the_ _source_ _files_ ??
I will make a note. (In the meantime I (try to) fix it in the translation.
(and marking it in the po-file for the source-fix later on)
> MJ> # This also applies to messages once in the Drafts folder
> MJ> # which have been sent by now. This announcement to remove all
> deleted
> MJ> # messages from the folder Drafts sounds astonishing.
> MJ> # ("No, I don't want my drafts deleted !")
> MJ> #: gui/wxMDialogs.cpp:2352
> MJ> msgid "Do you want to expunge all deleted messages\n"
> MJ> "in folder '%s'?"
>
> Sorry, I'm unsure I see the problem: do you mean we need different
> message
> for the drafts folder than for all the other ones?
Forget about it. I was confused by the behaviour of the drafts folder of
using mark and delete instead of move it to the trash. (see below)
> MJ> Further question to the above:
> MJ> I've configured M to use the Trash-Folder. But "expired" drafts are
> _ma=
> rked_
> MJ> as deleted nevertheless. (Instead of moved to the Trash). This leads
> to
> MJ> the above message later on.
>
> Drafts has its own setting by default which is "not use trash" -- and it
> overrides the global setting which you probably chose. If you change the
> setting for the drafts folder itself too, it should behave as expected.
This seems to be set to 'use trash'. But it still seems to mark the
messages instead of moving them to the trash.
> Printing is currently at least half broken :-( I'll think about this
> when I'll have time to fix it.
Ah, ok.
> MJ> #: gui/wxFolderView.cpp:1147
> MJ> msgid "Select the &viewer to use: " =3D> "Selected viewer:"
> MJ> #: modules/HtmlViewer.cpp:494
> MJ> msgid "HTML message viewer" =3D> "HTML"
> MJ> #: modules/LayoutViewer.cpp:279
> MJ> msgid "Default message viewer" "Default"
> MJ> #: modules/TextViewer.cpp:368
> MJ> msgid "Text only message viewer" =3D> "Text only"
> I think these strings are used in other places too (modules dialog?)
----------
No, I don't think so. At least there is each time just one source-reference
in the .po-file; (see above)
----------
Ah, rats, I just saw it ! So forget about that proposal. (And I feeled _that_
smart ;-)
(So this is stuffed into the class itself and than reused - never thought
of that !)
I'll change that back.
> MJ> For the identities drop-down-list, there is the "same problem", the
> MJ> other way round. I would like a (translatable) string "Selected
> MJ> Identity" in front of the drop-down-list.
>
> Do you mean just another name for "Default" identity or something
> different?
No, I would like a static string in in front of the drop-down list, to make
clear what it is.
Something like this:
[Adressbook Icon] Identity: [cat]
======== [dog]
[bird]
> Thanks again!
Thanks for a great program !
(And the first one to push me to try to make a "real" contribution (more
than just bug reports and some patches))
And thanks for the fixes according to my suggestions !
Martin
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