At 3:37 PM -0700 9/29/06, Carson Gaspar wrote: > Brad, if your _incoming_ queue is so big that you have to worry, your > servers are woefully underspec'd.
That may or may not be true, but that doesn't make the problem magically go away. > If you can >provide a detailed use case where it matters for the _incoming_ queue, >please do so. Basically, it's any site that has one or more lists that have relatively high levels of incoming traffic, and which run into synchronous meta-data bottleneck issues. This could be a lower-end machine with a filesystem that does not perform as well as could be, and a more moderately sized list. Or, this could be a site where they've already thrown the biggest/best configured machine at the problem that they can, and yet they're still seeing problems. On the high end, from the reports we got after Apple upgraded the system for lists.apple.com, I don't think they're too likely to have these kinds of problems. But the FreeBSD folks might already be there, and I imagine that the SourceForge people are definitely there. But I'm sure there are more relatively smaller lists running on relatively smaller/less well configured hardware, and which are running into the same kinds of problems. All this aside, it's clear that I'm not going to convince anyone here of anything, so I'm just going to unsubscribe from the list and I'll ask everyone to make sure that they do not include me on any further messages on this subject. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See <http://www.lopsa.org/>. _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp