On 10/25/2025 2:54 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Dennis Putnam via Mailman-users writes:

  > $ ls /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gunicorn
  > app         debug.py     http         __main__.py  reloader.py util.py
  > arbiter.py  errors.py    __init__.py  pidfile.py   sock.py workers
  > config.py   glogging.py  instrument   __pycache__  systemd.py

That looks OK.  Are all the files readable by the mailman user?
*Yes*

Is it possible that mailman-web was installed somewhere other than
that virtual environment?
*Not that I can find.*

  > Do I need to specify a path somewhere?

Not if you follow this procedure (note: assumes venv already exists
and Mailman core was installed into the venv):

1.  cd /opt/mailman
2.  sudo su mailman                     # or somehow be the mailman user
3.  . venv/bin/activate
4.  python -m pip install mailmanweb    # maybe that's mailman-web
*Yes, it is mailman-web. In any case everything is satisfied.*

The point of activating the venv is that the installation process will
ensure that the Python installation in the venv is referenced by all
packages installed in the venv.

You should ensure that all of the executable paths in the systemd
mailman (or mailman3) and mailman-web unit files are absolute paths
pointing into the venv.
*This looks right to me but nothing points to /opt/mailman/venv/lib. Should there be a lib_dir parameter set in mailman.cfg?

[Unit]
Description=GNU Mailing List Manager
After=syslog.target network.target

[Service]
Type=forking
PIDFile=/opt/mailman/mm/var/master.pid
User=mailman
Group=mailman
Environment="MAILMAN_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg"
ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start
ExecReload=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman restart
ExecStop=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman stop
Restart=on-failure
RestartSec=15

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target*

  > *I think the main thing is the MySQL stuff in settings.py:
  >
  > <venv> pip install pymysql
  >
  > Add lines:
  >
  > import pymysql
  > pymysql.install_as_MySQLdb()
  >
  > At least so far.*

Thank you!  That's useful.

Steve


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