First of all, thanks again for your help. Although my problem isn't solved yet, you've given me a much better understanding of how Mailman works.
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Check Mailman's bounce log (if you can). When you send to -admin there > should be an entry > > bounce message w/no discernable addresses: <message-id> > > and a "forwarding unrecognized" entry. Yes, I see those entries. > Then if this is followed by a bounce scored for you or a 'already > scored a bounce' for you, this is the owner notification that bounced. I see that too (after an "OutgoingRunner" processing line). > If you then turn off notifying the owner on unrecognized bounces, and > you get the first message in the log, but not the second, you can be > sure it is the owner notice that was bouncing. With the bounce notification off, I no longer get the "OutgoingRunner" line, nor the bounce score / already bounced line. And "forwarding unrecognized" becomes "discarding unrecognized". So it looks like you have really pinpointed where the problem is. >> What's even more weird is that if subscribe notifications go to >> "-owner", how would they bounce and my test messages to "-owner" not? > > They have different From: headers and different content. If it's > filtering, maybe the From: in the case of your messages is white > listed and the listname-owner that the notices are From: is not. All filtering, spam control, etc. that I can disable has been disabled. Is there any way to see exactly what message(s) Mailman is trying to send that are bouncing? Is there a config setting or option that would cause all mail to be logged/saved/archived so I could see the structure of the mail and perhaps identify why it would bounce? Alternatively, is there a way to see the bounce that is coming back after Mailman sends out the notification email? Kris ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
