On 5/30/08 4:35 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
On 5/29/08 11:37 PM, Jim Popovitch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, David Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hmmm. I must be missing something, as the system is still associating each
Message-ID with all 250 list subscribers.
VERP has nothing to do with Message-ID, and everything to do with
Return-Path and Sender:   ;-)

With VERP and personalization, the Return-Path, instead of being
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" becomes
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

I think you said you're using Postfix in which case you need
"recipient_delimiter = +" in your main.cf so it knows about the plus signs
in the return paths.

ACK. Yes, that's in main.cf.


When you then get the AOL TOS e-mail, you can figure out who the list
recipient was as while AOL redacts the AOL recipient, they don't touch the
Return-Path.

I wish this were true, but it appears AOL gets to the Return-Path too:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So neither Return-ID nor Message-ID identifies who's complaining.

But...this might be something. The next message header contains an ESMTP ID that corresponds with exactly one AOL user in maillog:

Received: from rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (rly-mh07.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.143]) by air-mh02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH024-be4483f8d3acf; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:14:45 -0400 Received: from mail.somedomain.com (mail.somedomain.com [666.666.666.666]) by rly-mh07.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH074-be4483f8d3acf; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:14:35 -0400
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by mail.somedomain.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55685B31C0
        for <redacted>; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:34 -0000 (UTC)


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:log# grep -i B55685B31C0 /var/log/maillog

May 29 22:14:34 mail postfix/smtpd[25785]: B55685B31C0: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 29 22:14:34 mail postfix/cleanup[21262]: B55685B31C0: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> May 29 22:14:34 mail postfix/qmgr[23040]: B55685B31C0: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=13344, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

Given the above, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" the subscriber that's complaining? Or is it just a coincidence that that AOL user got listed first?

many thanks

dn

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