I agree about html email, but it was always an uphill battle with Outlook being set to html format by default. With iPhones/iPads, there seems to not even be a choice. They seem to create plain text unless you add a photo, then they revert to html. Our list needs to allow photos, so we just have to try t deal with it.
Peter Shute > -----Original Message----- > From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- > bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] On Behalf Of Lindsay Haisley > Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2018 1:37 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list > server > > On Tue, 2018-01-23 at 02:10 +0000, Peter Shute wrote: > > Thanks for all that. I googled collapse_alternatives, and I can see > > from the colour of some of the results that I've looked this up > > before. > > > > Given that Mac and (particularly) iPhone/iPad users are common, we > > probably don't have an unusual problem. Maybe I should just ask the > > list owner to try changing those two settings to see how it goes: > > collapse_alternatives=No > > convert_html_to_plaintext=No > > I've been preaching for years to people that using HTML-enhanced email is a > questionable practice, and on a mailing list it's even worse. > There is no established standard for this usage, and graphic attachments may > or may not be handled, or handled as the sender expected. On a mailing list > it's a pretty sure bet that at least _some_ subscribers won't be able to see > what the sender intended, so SOP on the lists here is to just strip them off. > An email with _only_ an HTML MIME part is identified as spam. > > Smart phones have complicated the issue since in my experience smart > phone MUAs are fairly brain-dead. > > I tell my Mailman mailing list customers that spot color, font effects > (bolding, > italics, etc) and simple layout are probably fine, but the use of images, > either > embedded or attached, is dicey. > > It used to be that HTML-ized emails were up to 10 times the size of plain text > emails, depending on the generating MUA. This is probably still true, but > bandwidth and storage capacities around the Internet have risen over the > years so that this isn't the problem it used to be. > > -- > Lindsay Haisley | "The first casualty when > FMP Computer Services | war comes is truth." > 512-259-1190 | > http://www.fmp.com | -- Hiram W Johnson > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: > http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail- > archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- > users/pshute%40nuw.org.au ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
