On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 17:24 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Brian Carpenter writes: > > On 8/26/20 6:25 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > > > > > As someone regularly uses and maintains a fair bit of old and antique > > > machinery, MM2 still has a lot of life in it. > > In particular, MM2 L10N supports a couple dozen languages, including > the major Han languages and dialects, and I think Hebrew and Arabic. > MM3 supports English, French, German, and now Italian. > > > MM2 has some life. That is correct. MM3 has far more. > > Thank you both for your support. Of course, you're both right. ;-) > > Brian, do you see the presence of lots of MM2 installations around the > 'net as a threat or irritation for you or your business? I don't see > that, but you know your business and I don't. Or are you taking the > users' point of view, and arguing that the features of Mailman 3 and > possible risks to Mailman 2 installations make migration the "right > thing"? > > The point is that I don't see a lot of direct harm to third parties > from maintaining existing MM2 installations, if their owners are > willing to accept the risks that come with an unsupported software > stack. I don't disagree that for-profit services that offer these are > irresponsible, but I don't see how that hurts you or us, given that we > don't support that stack any more. > > > That is good as long as no major "DMARC" events come along. > > That's a very good point. There are major risks to using Internet- > facing applications that lack an experienced, active development team. > But that's up to the users to decide, while monitoring just how active > Jim's team turns out to be.
Again with the "Jim's team". Those other guys, that other group, them folks.... That's nauseating to hear from you Stephen. > I think Jim should very much take this to heart, as well as thinking > about the fact that we get several CVEs a year, which will be his job > to deal with. I don't lose sleep over the CVEs (they're all 1s and 2s > recently, and Mark did almost all the work before I could get started :-), > but DMARC cost me a lot of sleep. Stephen, just who do you think did the DMARC research and work in MM2? Phil, Mark, care to chime in on this? -Jim P. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
