AT&T has now started blocking the IP address of the multiple
auto-forwarding email addresses I set up to get around them blocking the
IP address of my GNU Mailman list. So even that labor-intensive
strategy won't work. You'd have to be sending from multiple different
IP addresses.
Dream Host to their credit jumped right on this and also tried to
resolve the problem with AT&T. No responses from AT&T. This includes
sbcglobal.net, att.net, flash.net, bellsouth.net, optonline.net,
worldnet.att, and ameritech.net .
37 list members at risk unless they change their email addresses. We
started 20+ years ago with a different list program and hosting
provider, so we have lots of legacy members suddenly getting cut off.
*Michael Reeder, LCPC
*
*Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location*
*410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com*
On 8/28/2022 4:17 PM, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:
I should mention that for the free att.net account I set up (managed
by Yahoo) that as the end user I received *NO* notifications of any
sort. List emails were not even sent to a Spam folder!
*Michael Reeder, LCPC
*
*Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village
location*
*410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com*
On 8/28/2022 4:08 PM, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:
Dave Nathanson wrote: /"I'm having a similar struggle with
sbcglobal.net & ATT.net addresses - They are rejecting our list mail
with a reject notice"/
I can second this. I believe AT&T has been blocking for months or
years, but with Dream Host rebuilding their discussion list servers
in July, it gave AT&T a new opportunity to reblock us anew and a new
opportunity for list administrators of GNU Mailman lists hosted at
Dream Host to notice.
I have 36 list users all blocked from AT&T managed accounts at the
following domains: sbcglobal.net, att.net, flash.net, bellsouth.net,
optonline.net, worldnet.att, and ameritech.net
Almost all of these flow through email servers at the prodigy.net
domain, but please notice that this also includes att.net domains
managed for AT&T by Yahoo (no Prodigy servers involved).
AT&T has ignored my (very polite) screams for months, and this week
Dream Host support reported back that AT&T is no longer answering
their inquiries. According to Dream Host, AT&T recently blocked 8
additional IP blocks (or just IP addresses?). For one of them, AT&T
responded saying it was in error (and unblocking it) and saying
something to the effect that they block any IP block sending too many
email. For the other 7, crickets.
I do observe that my IP block is on the UCEPROTECTL3 blacklist,
although I don't know that AT&T is using it. UCEPROTECTL3 would,
however, be happy to "express delist" my particular IP address as its
doing nothing wrong for the low, low price of only $25 per month.
Jerks!
I have (temporarily?) fixed this by creating nine or so auto-forward
email addresses that auto-forward to 5 AT&T accounts each. (Dream
Host users: you can't just create one auto-forward address to send to
everyone because Dream Host themselves limit email addresses to about
30 emails sent per hour. Also -- with Dream Host auto-forward only
email addresses you won't see bounce traffic when AT&T starts
blocking again.)
What a mess.
-- Michael
*Michael Reeder, LCPC
*
*Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village
location*
*410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com*
On 8/27/2022 4:09 PM, Dave Nathanson wrote:
I'm having a similar struggle with sbcglobal.net & ATT.net addresses
- They are rejecting our list mail with a reject notice, but let
individual messages through. I have different outgoing server for
mailman. My servers are hosted at Dreamhost, who generally has very
helpful support, but in the past 3 weeks they are not able to
convince sbcglobal & att to let our mail through because they banned
our IP block.
I did set Mailman to give me notice for each bounce notification so
I could see what was going on, and when the bounce counters were
incremented. That helped me be more aware.
Immensely frustrating, as almost half of our list members have
sbcglobal or ATT & are losing contact with our group.
Best,
Dave Nathanson
Mac Medix
On Aug 26, 2022, at 10:36 PM, Jayson
Smith<jayb...@bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
Hi,
Yesterday I received a report from an AOL user that she's not
receiving traffic from one of my lists. The problem here is that my
server logs show outgoing mail being accepted by AOL's incoming
mail servers, and of course after that it's anyone's guess what
happens to them. She says she's checked her junkmail folder and the
messages aren't there. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Is
AOL known to silently discard mail they think is spam for some
reason? I replied to her message from the same server and she did
receive that reply, so they haven't outright blocked my IP or
something. Even if I could contact someone who knows what they're
doing at AOL, there are no error logs for me to show.
Jayson
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