Hi Andrew,

But in your case you may have some differing "ip reputation" to account
for. For me the only difference was the html layout. Nothing else was
changed.

I have to say this was years ago. I generally do not spend so much time on
a single message.

Yours,


David

On 22 November 2017 at 17:03, Andrew Wingle <awin...@listrak.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
>
>
> I can attest to the same issue and the replication of the issue. We have
> found some scenarios where the same email will deliver to specific domain
> on one IP and not of the other. I cannot say that we have seen a different
> result by “cleaning” the HTML up. Seems that the blackholing has increased
> significantly over the past few weeks if other metrics are indeed
> indicative of this problem.
>
>
>
> e.g.
>
> This is for the same exact message. Nothing about the messages are
> changed. Messages are DKIM signed and have SPF-passing. IPs are given to
> show an example only.
>
>
>
> recipient domain              sender IP             result
>
> x...@hotmail.com            142.0.83.00         accepted and delivered
>
> a...@outlook.com           142.0.83.00         accepted but never found
> (blackholed)
>
>
>
> recipient domain              sender IP             result
>
> x...@hotmail.com            142.0.83.01         accepted but never found
> (blackholed)
>
> a...@outlook.com           142.0.83.01         accepted and delivered
>
>
>
> For the message that is received in the mailbox there is nothing unique
> about the header results to give way to what may have happened to the other
> recipient’s message.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> *ANDREW D. WINGLE*
>
>
>
> 717-625-7857 <(717)%20625-7857> direct
>
> ----------------------------
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *David
> Hofstee
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 10:40 AM
> *To:* mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Outlook says "mail accepted for delivery" but it
> never shows up
>
>
>
> Hi Klaus,
>
>
>
> No, actually it was perfectly repeatable. We couldn't believe it either.
> Since this was a notification email of the ESP application we really wanted
> to know why it was dropped by Microsoft so we rinsed and repeated...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 22 November 2017 at 10:42, Klaus Ethgen <klaus+mai...@ethgen.de> wrote:
>
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> Hi,
>
> Am Mi den 22. Nov 2017 um 10:21 schrieb David Hofstee:
> > It certainly could also have to do with the html content formatting. I
> have
> > seen that a cleaner html layout suddenly allowed my email.
>
> Well, that is just a random coincident. I have even plain text mails
> dropped by microsoft.
>
> Regards
>    Klaus
> - --
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