Seeing some funky stuff here, as well. Multiple reports of excessive (and
new) 4xx deferrals over the past days.

Cheers,
Al Iverson

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:07 AM Jan Schapmans <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> not seeing any progress (no blame :-)). Numbers are still high.
>
> Is it ok to retry the message immediately? now our default retry is taken
> so we wait 30mins.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> *JAN SCHAPMANS*
>
> DIRECTOR DELIVERABILITY SERVICES
>
>
>
> *mobile* +32 498 932 965
>
> *email* [email protected]
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> The information contained in this communication is confidential and is
> only for the use of the intended addressee. If you have received this
> communication in error, please destroy it immediately, including all
> attachments.
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>
> *From:* mailop <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Michael Wise
> via mailop
> *Sent:* 23 April 2019 22:08
> *To:* Christopher Vitulski <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Michael Wise via mailop <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Error message from Hotmail
>
>
>
>
>
> Making inquiries.
>
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> Michael.
>
> --
>
> *Michael J Wise*
> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
>
> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
>
> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
> <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ?
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Vitulski via mailop
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:48 AM
> *Cc:* mailop <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Error message from Hotmail
>
>
>
> Hello Mail op community,
>
>
>
> We are still seeing similar issues as mentioned above.  It has started to
> go away, and then has picked back up again, most recently it started to
> accumulate more bounces starting Monday April 22 and continues to grow
> today.  It seems we see the bulk of these bounces from 3 am to 3 pm PST.
>
>
>
> I opened a ticket with MSFT that quickly turned into them telling me they
> see no issue and they cannot help with the specific bounce I am seeing:
>
>
>
> "451 4.4.0 Message failed to be replicated: Insufficient system resource [
> VI1EUR04HT159.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252FVI1EUR04HT159.eop-2Deur04.prod.protection.outlook.com-26data-3D02-257C01-257CWINLV.EDFS.WW.00.EN.MSF.RMD.TS.T01.SPT.00.EM-2540css.one.microsoft.com-257C62c63fa1beaa4c75730008d6c3567e61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C636911173587445850-26sdata-3DUmJqM4wlVkhu5Ymh0qi7IRGKw5Tcn-252FsoStQIA-252F10vNE-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFAw%26c%3DLNdz7nrxyGFUIUTz2qIULQ%26r%3DsQl8rwBnLieH1wVPf-ldoaciRKhCzq5Vi9rzTb9kUac%26m%3Dr-YHMH8O_nO_jDb5xJwJaE3ZCsQkPM6T7XAImG7Fa9g%26s%3DbNaZZwjPJOs1WIabQ3rBShn5IzLwAg1xBH3Y__wXL_c%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382596123&sdata=5e3QRqeNwpv5P4cxFI02OooVmAfLJ2bRwtFM5OhYN48%3D&reserved=0>]
> [VI1EUR04FT063.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252FVI1EUR04FT063.eop-2Deur04.prod.protection.outlook.com-26data-3D02-257C01-257CWINLV.EDFS.WW.00.EN.MSF.RMD.TS.T01.SPT.00.EM-2540css.one.microsoft.com-257C62c63fa1beaa4c75730008d6c3567e61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C636911173587445850-26sdata-3DoG-252B3u7UzhGCoyykOE-252BrieWDbuhWa3UD63-252BpoB7LUEuQ-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFAw%26c%3DLNdz7nrxyGFUIUTz2qIULQ%26r%3DsQl8rwBnLieH1wVPf-ldoaciRKhCzq5Vi9rzTb9kUac%26m%3Dr-YHMH8O_nO_jDb5xJwJaE3ZCsQkPM6T7XAImG7Fa9g%26s%3DWkJBJoxrK62hPYyoEQwH0obtbTqAN-kCP3cfE7HIBnw%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382606128&sdata=B8MbTSuNDhPiA7sULataMdd3JWegRGcRR9j6wh8Q97c%3D&reserved=0>
> ]"
>
>
>
> MSFT reply:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, we are not the right place for you to direct your Support
> questions.
>
> Our goal in Outlook.com Deliverability Support is to make sure that every
> wanted message sent to our customers arrive in their inbox. We work
> directly with senders to resolve email delivery failures to Microsoft
> owned domains. After reviewing the information you provided, I have
> determined that your issue is related to hotmail services. Unfortunately,
> we are not the right place for you to direct your Support questions.
>
>
> Also, to receive further help with your account, you can also use our
> online support website. The website is: http://answers.microsoft
> .com/en-us/windowslive/forum/hotmail
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__answers.microsoft.com_en-2Dus_windowslive_forum_hotmail%26d%3DDwMFAw%26c%3DLNdz7nrxyGFUIUTz2qIULQ%26r%3DsQl8rwBnLieH1wVPf-ldoaciRKhCzq5Vi9rzTb9kUac%26m%3DLAz1VcDdo8OIsqLPPkLBo52IzQucJDXz1gCjfeLJQMI%26s%3DGNiflmul_WCPZCl2z3-ScVGzIiQgbqrW382KDmWyk9Y%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382616137&sdata=vcAkjNEMwhbmQxvKfIy8yf1QskUZOEFugb7sBQytbYo%3D&reserved=0>
> .
>
>
>
> At this point we are stuck as MSFT has said they cannot help us, even
> though the issue seems to be resources on their side.  Has any one out
> there had any luck resolving this issue with MSFT?  As mentioned previously
> they keep saying they don't see any issues with my IPs (which makes sense
> as this seems to be an issue on their side) but after their canned replies
> don't work they tell me they cannot help with the reply listed above.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 10:17 AM Alex Burch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> We've been seeing a lot of these too.
>
>
> My question: does this mean we are sending too fast/opening too many
> connections? Or does this mean there is a legitimate temporary bottleneck
> on Hotmail's end that requires a simple retry?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
> --
>
>
>
> [image: https://d226aj4ao1t61q.cloudfront.net/cy3nisxfd_ac_logo-circle.png]
>
> *Alexander Burch*
>
> ActiveCampaign / Deliverability Engineer
>
> [email protected]
>
> 1 North Dearborn St Suite 500, Chicago IL, 60602
>
> [image: https://d226aj4ao1t61q.cloudfront.net/ys2h3to2m_email-facebook.png]
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Factivecampaign&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382616137&sdata=7L5BcLF57KJTWNTv5WIZF42GDxBCOYiH8iYZw%2F86IrE%3D&reserved=0>
>  [image:
> https://d226aj4ao1t61q.cloudfront.net/tc3x0kcsn_email-twitter.png]
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Factivecampaign&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382626147&sdata=FJ29jwdqmWXSuapfS76N5EUXr2JGAMzLDsSqYma8Ro0%3D&reserved=0>
>  [image:
> https://d226aj4ao1t61q.cloudfront.net/y1t0ztxcr_email-linkedin.png]
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Factivecampaign-inc-&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382626147&sdata=FPPmGqmkt4Pg8CY3jK4YgQrDIu%2BW9NC5BQmVIy2zXnU%3D&reserved=0>
>  [image: https://d226aj4ao1t61q.cloudfront.net/j14l6ck9n_email-google.png]
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F107063868317743606466&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382636151&sdata=0lrTsK7AuNxKkiTEV1Ser5v1OAzWKsgU%2B6fzlOdNDcM%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
> [image: https://www.activecampaign.com/sig/?u=aburch]
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.activecampaign.com%2Fsig%2F%3Fu%3Daburch%26c%3D1&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382636151&sdata=H%2FlsLNvzPHsdL9Rz9BaxYaTZ74ViWYSbM6tKZmq8mlQ%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:34 AM Frank Bulk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> FYI, saw this logged by one of our email servers:
>
> <redacted>@premieronline.net
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpremieronline.net&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382646161&sdata=HYyuwqFtwxMnvKrOlg%2FxqWqrfvdRXG9W4eIO7JSIG8Q%3D&reserved=0>
>   <redacted>@hotmail.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382646161&sdata=WMXu2Nv7%2FiSgWvIHsCzkzFw%2F8U6wpJD6vxPbsuqJSec%3D&reserved=0>
>         Site
> hotmail.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382656165&sdata=gjwekBH5UiecoFAE7VWLQ8BjYu5mXT8MIM%2BL0ZA24nI%3D&reserved=0>
> (104.47.0.33) said after data sent: 451 4.4.0 Message failed to
> be replicated: Insufficient system resource
> [HE1EUR01HT060.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FHE1EUR01HT060.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382656165&sdata=6zHlbAVIC4v2ikPsNrtxk7UKSVyFwug5pkGnugRR%2BIk%3D&reserved=0>
> ]
> [HE1EUR01FT041.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FHE1EUR01FT041.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C6bdca917d23f490d94e608d6c81d4552%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636916425382666179&sdata=m1EtEiKDRvOFobLw1o51vcrywqU5QGXRFQQaR28SwCk%3D&reserved=0>
> ]
>
> Frank
>
>
>
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> --
>
> _____________________________
>
> *Chris Vitulski*
>
> *Deliverability Operations Specialist, North America*
>
> Phone: 360-241-8749
>
> Email: cvitulski <[email protected]>@groupon.com
>
>
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