Well, we did leave Amazon SES a couple of years ago, and I haven't used them 
since. Just like my views on KDE, it was crap at version 1, so I've never used 
since (:

Steve

December 3, 2019 2:45 PM, "Michael Peddemors via mailop" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On 2019-12-02 4:53 p.m., Steve Holdoway via mailop wrote:
> 
>> December 3, 2019 1:46 PM, "Luis E. Muñoz via mailop" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 15:59, John Levine via mailop wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I warned a guy away from Hetzner and OVH if he wants to send mail so > he
>> reasonably asked what VPS provider in Europe is better for sending > mail.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>>> I'm AWS (IPv4 and IPv6) with good results. I would go with AWS for Europe 
>>> services. Months ago did
>>> some tests from DigitalOcean ams2 VMs, but for other reasons ended up 
>>> ditching it.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> -lem
>> 
>> I use linode. Moved away from Amazon SES with their draconian disconnect 
>> policies. Alternatively
>> stay where you are and use a 3rd party - Sendgrid is what we moved to.
>> Steve
> 
> Kind of funny, from your side Amazon SES has draconian disconnect, but a 
> raging problem from EC2
> IP(s) now and complaints about slow take downs, quite a disconnect between 
> the two sides
> approaches..
> 
> But overall Linode is not bad as a suggestion, but often with hosting 
> providers, when trying to
> send email it's your neighbours which will affect your reputation..
> 
> No matter who you choose, you should ensure that things like PTR/rDNS and 
> 'rwhois' are provided so
> you can be as transparent as possible with your identity, so you don't appear 
> to be one of the fly
> by nighters that often infest VPS networks..
> 
> SendGrid used to have a great responsive abuse team, but things have degraded 
> of late.. If you do
> go SendGrid, go dedicated IP, and not shared services.. based on our reports 
> of increased leakage..
> 
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