heho, thanks for bringing this up. i am currently digging a bit in the whole scape of centralization, especially in academia (see page 4-7 here for the perspective of mail-hosting in academia: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2104.09462.pdf ); things are... dire, especially in the us. universities used to be _the_ place self-hosting infrastructure.
email is a rather evolving system, and to align the design choices of the past with the needs of a mass Internet, the complexity of running stuff oneself is going up (and the number of dmarc report rua bounces from _large_ entities i get each night tells me that this is not limited to smaller operators...); with major providers intransparently deciding what to enforce (and what applies to them), i hear many saying 'well, if you want your mails delivered, go for $bigone'. this is essentially how we lost xmpp and i fear the dice are already in the cup for smtp et al. (and the rest of the Internet). with best regards, tobias -----Original Message----- From: mailop <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Vixie via mailop Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2022 23:44 To: [email protected] Subject: [mailop] $GOOG it's troubling me that in a recent thread asking where to host mailboxes, google was recommended several times, in spite of the fact that google is provably wrong and provably non-transarent in how they decide what inbound e-mail to reject. of all constituencies, this one, mailop, is one i would have expected to know better than to cooperate with your oppressor. _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
