Am 21.11.23 um 20:11 schrieb A. Schulze via mailop:
I missed, that mailop.org is operated by an other organization as postfix users 
listserver.
For the later, SPF and DKIM looks good but only a DMARC record is missing.

one further difference:

the smtp client at mx.mailop.org provide a certificate when connection to my MX,
the smtp client at list.sys4.de (operating the postfix-list) does not use a 
ccert.

Maybe these differences are reasons for gmail to defer some messages from 
Ralf's postfix-list

Andreas
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