On 2024-03-14, Marco Moock via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Hello! > > Yesterday I replied somebody directly on debian-users (he uses a crappy > mailer and sends to the author and the mailing list...). > > Gmail doesn't like this mail, but rejects it with a tempfail. I've now > deleted it from mqueue. > > Mar 14 06:54:17 srv1.xyz sm-mta[498019]: 42DK6aqc496761: > to=<x...@gmail.com>, delay=09:47:40, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, > pri=5370980, relay=alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com., dsn=4.7.28, > reply=421 4.7.28 Gmail has detected an unusual rate of unsolicited mail > originating, stat=Deferred: 421-4.7.28 Gmail has detected an unusual > rate of unsolicited mail originating > > It was only this message. Why don't they reject them with 5xx when they > treat the mail as unsolicited? > It was only this mail, my server wasn't abused by spammers. > > Although, I send only a very small amount of mail to Google. Do they > use that to calculate the rate?
They don't reject with 5xx because they're not rejecting that message, they are rate-limiting you or the network you're on. I get this often, because one user forwards their mail to gmail, including all the spam. Google rejects the spam, and from time to time also rate-limits me. Which I don't care about, because I send very little mail, and it goes through on the next run. Google is brain-dead about "unsolicited" mail - whatever machine learning it's doing, is crap. Their latest daftness (latest in my noticing it, anyway) is rate-limiting on the basis of too many recipients for a single message-id, where "too many" varies from 6 to 30. You'd think they'd never heard of organization mailing lists. Julian. _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
