Hi Rob, I would agree on all points but number three. On an MTA technical level, the spammer can easily tell a spoofed fake bounce. If you are trying to do this to someone you know for a purpose, them of course you have a perfectly valid reason.
I used to watch clients sit in apple mail and select hundreds if not 1000's of emails, mark them as spam, which was good to train the local DB, but then do the "bounce" thing. First you get the malformed spammer mail in which they don't use a real MTA so the headers don't have a return-path and some busted mailer decides, heck I will send 100 of these to the from: header, or worse, the reply-to and I get yelled at for weeks from strangers and mailing lists. Or it hits a mail loop, those are always fun to get out of if no one answers postmaster@ or abuse@ or listmom@ or list@ My opinion, good feature, but you have to know too much about the mail server at a lower level to not get into trouble, as I only touched on some of the minor problems. What I do, select all spam or messages like that, press shift-! and they are reported to the google as spam. I will test if they are bounced and report back. I then just nuke em. I think there may be a way to do what you want with a small little app I know of that sits as an SMTP proxy, but not certain since gmail runs over http(s). You may have to create a forward elsewhere, which is getting really messy and a big chain. :) What about a filter and setting up Apple Mail to run on an old machine on a schedule with a script to pick up the messages you want to bounce, or is it more an on demand issue? Assumes IMAP of course, or specific POP settings. For what it is worth, this says it better than I ever could being an ex mail server admin, we dealt with this every day, and this is why it's a bad idea: http://www.dontbouncespam.org/ Redirect - yes,why not, it is so valuable. However, according to this, while not elegant, it can be done and properly with the correct headers too: http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/Forward_Gmail_Email_to_Another_Email_Address_Automatically.htm Send again - Curious as to your need? I know I have had to every now and again, but it is very rare. I forget to include an address. A few copy and pastes and I am good. Any Macro app will solve this, there is a free one that allows 10 macros by Red Sweater I think. I will pop open the AppleScript Dictionary and see if it is something expised in MailPlane. if MailPlane gives access to the headers, and I can grab the message-ID of the email you select, it can be done in a few liines of AppleScript I bet. Then you have a button to do just what you want. And I bet you could make it say, "send again, bounce, redirect" or something like that. I am just starting to learn all the in's and out's of MailPlane and what it can do and I know 3 is around the corner as well. Right now, I wish there was a CSS guru out there who I could bounce some ideas off of, specifically how to make your own themes beyond the cheesy ones gmail allows you to make. Or, maybe the MailPlane guys could tell me where in the heck Safari is storing it's CSS interpreter and if it is binary or something I can fiddle with and have full control of the window, and not just the one in the preferences. I just sent a test email from an account I have on hotmail, marked it and reported it as spam in gmail, no bounce was generated. There are part of this that are not standards compliment and maybe we should report this to google. I don't know what goof it will do, considering how far from a perfect match the IMAP and POP spec actually is to what the spec says it should be. :) I am curious what AppleScript can do, so let me see what I can figure out from there. Thanks all. -- Scott On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Rob Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > The other things I can't believe Gmail lacks: > > 1. A "send again" command for when you want to send the same email to > the same (or different) persons. Far more convenient than "forward". > Has many uses and is available in Apple Mail. > > 2. A "redirect" command, which is like a "forward" command but leaves > the original sender's address intact instead of changing it to your > address. Again, available in Apple Mail. > > 3. A "bounce" command, which tells the sender that their message to > you couldn't be delivered. Maybe not that useful these days but—you > guessed it—available in Apple Mail. > > > > On Oct 4, 10:51 am, Martin Kleppmann <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 4 October 2011 10:42, Rob Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It's amazing that Gmail doesn't provide such a fundamental feature as > > > creating a separate "reply to" header (which Apple Mail allows). > > > > You can set up reply-to addresses by creating a separate sender > > identity in the Gmail preferences: > https://img.skitch.com/20111004-epyp57etn8hhk84q595jrgu81q.png > > > > If you do that, you get a drop-down list of your sender identities on > > every compose form, from which you can choose the one with the desired > > reply-to. > > > > Martin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mailplaneapp" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/mailplaneapp?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mailplaneapp" group. 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