salvete collagae,
Ecloga IV in the Bucolica of course is the great poem, that showes Maro as a
"prophet" in medieval Christian view (since late antiquity, specially since
Constantin).
But also in Aeneis VI three points connnect Christianism with the imperium-idea
of "pater Anchises":
1. The coincidence of Aeneis VI, 853
"parcere subiectis et debellare superbos"
with the Magnificat (Lucas 1,52):
"deposuit potentes de sede et exaltavit humiles";
2.the idea of this imperium itself, that belongs in Christian view to the four
imperia of the Daniel-Apokalypsis and is the last one before the big shabbat of
thousend years, the the regnum millennium, that means: Christus cannot come and
reign 1000 years, before the Roman imperium has not gone. As long as it lived
in
its different forms, traditions and transformations, so the idea of Roman
imperium in medieval time, as long the last imperium on earth, the milennium of
Christ himself, was not able to come: the fourth regnum of the
Daniel-Apokalypsis had to disappear first.
3. The continuity of "Roma" as caput mundi in the complementarism of king and
priest, of rex and sacerdos - see "So erhielt Petrus das Kaisertum"
http://home.t-online.de/home/03581413454/otiapref.htm
- in the form of Kaiser and Papa, confirmed by the Constantine donation - a
fake, of course, but in this form best expression of the fundamental idea.
So far, I'm d'accord with RANDI C ELDEVIK; but he also has written some
nonsense
about the ordo domus St. Mariae Teutonicorum in his last letter:
> the
> Teutonic Knights (an order of military monks)
? Templises (Temple-knights) and the knights of Malta (what is the English name
for this ordines?) were the prototype of this ordo. "Military monks" - is that
the common name of such knights?
> who somehow decided that the
> Poles weren't Catholic enough--despite their centuries-long Catholicism--
> and that "true Catholicism" would have to be enforced by the sword.
The people conquered by the ordo were the Prussians, and later also the people
living in the Balticum. Conflict with the Polish kingdom was late, it was a
political conflict about Danzig 1308; but such conflicts have been also with
Danmark and Nowgorod and many other kingdoms.
The ordo is one root of the later Prussian state. I think "Oklahoma" is an
Indian name, occupied by European colonists. So "Prussia" had been the name of
the people, whose Country was occupied and "europised" by the knights of the
ordo domus St. Mariae Teutonicorum. Prussia doesn't exist any more.
Long live Oklahoma!
grusz, hansz
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