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Derek,
There are various books on the fur trade, etc. Do you have
Kendrick's The Men With Wooden Feet? It's on the Spanish early
voyages to the NW Coast, but, of course, there's much overlap with
the British and U.S. Barry Gough's Fortune's a River is also an
excellent discussion. Is t here something you are looking for? I
might have copy in my reference library. Happy to share if so.
Best,
Dee
On Apr 19, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Derek Hayes wrote:
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Many thanks to all those who responded to my query. The Archives of
State reference may be all I need to track the original of the
Kelley map down.
Mt. Jefferson was, of course, named by Clark not by Kelley; Kelley
attempted to rename all the other Cascade peaks not named after
presidents and name the entire range the President's Range.
Clearly the map was drawn sometime between 1835 and 1839, but we
don't know exactly when. It accompanied the letter to Poinsett in
1839.
Kelley's 1839 map has been reproduced many times but none of the
reproductions that I have seen are very good. Hence my search for
the original. I am particularly interested in getting a clear view
of notations and divisions noted on Vancouver Island and the
Olympic Peninsula, which appear to refer to land "deeded" to
British and American fur traders of the 1780s, including Robert
Gray of Columbia River fame, but precisely why this appears on
Kelley's map fifty plus years later I have yet to figure out. If
anyone has any ideas I should be delighted to hear of them!
Derek Hayes
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Joel Kovarsky
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On 4/19/2010 9:44 AM, Kenneth Nebenzahl wrote:
Derek,
Have you reviewed Wheat's 'Mapping the Transmississippi West,
444; v.
2, p.
170 with full page repro. of Kelley's 1839 ms, map at the State
Dept.?
Ken Nebenzahl
Looking at this map, it has a hand-written annotation in the bottom
right, by Kelley:
"The country south of the 47th parallel of lat. and west of the
mountains called the Presidents Range was explored in the years 1834
and 5"
Looking at the textual entry, the 1839 date seems to apply to the
date
that Kelley sent an accompanying letter to Poinsett in Boston,
not the
actual date the map was made. Or am I missing something here?
Lastly, in terms of the Presidents Range, I believe Mt. Jefferson
was
named during the Lewis and Clark expedition (1806), not later:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/LivingWith/Historical/LewisClark/Info/
summary_mount_jefferson.html
.
Joel Kovarsky
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