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Giulio,
just one more query: could you please be so kind as to explain, in your own 
words, without referring to other sources or text, in a few lines, the relation 
- obscure to me - between the name Antofagasta in Chile and the "mapping" of 
the Tropic of Capricorn supposed to be made under August ruler?
In which way the position of Antofagasta at (around) the latitude of the Tropic 
of the Capricorn  is a proof (or a part of the proof) of the accomplishment of 
the task by Roman surveyors?

vladimiro

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Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 19.18, giulio pizzati ha scritto:
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> Vladimiro!
> We are speaking about an Architects topic: "Territorial Roman Planing". 
> Geography, History, Archeostronomy, Arcaeology are  a complement.
> 
> I'll use understandable worlds:
> 
> 1. The Map of Tropic of Capricorn means to me to reconstruct the Map of 
> Vispanivs Agrippa exposed in Rome in Vispania porch and universally known as 
> the "ORBIS PICTVS".
> 
> 2. I use modern Maps to superpose Toponims given by the four Mensores of 
> Caesar from 44 to 12 BC.
> 
> 3. How do I map a Line? Very simple:Take for exemple the Cardo 7th East 
> passing not far from Murano (Venice, Italy) . I open Google Earth (it is 
> free), I point the ruler in SEVEN Island in Svalborg (Norway) an go to SETTE 
> Banda in Gabon (Africa). Ruler gives you a geodetic line (maximvs circvlvs)-. 
> Along this line you will find 18 Toponims (location names) repeating number 
> SEVEN. Now what is a Straight Line? It is a series of point leaning along the 
> line. In this case the 7th Cardo East. See "The Four Surveyors" pgs. 133/135.
> 
> 4. August had to measure the whole World because of the 'Votvs' of Scipions 
> after Cartago was destroyed and because of the 'Indictio' of Caesar .
> 
> 5.There is more that sufficient evidences because Cardo lines left by 
> Mensores are more that 10.000 (Tenthousend) . Everibody can find it with 
> Google Earth. 10.000. evidences prouve automaticaly that Honorivs is true. 
> (See "Date a Cesare")
> 
> More questions?
> 
> Giulio
> 
> 
> --- Sab 7/5/11, Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it> ha scritto:
> 
> Da: Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it>
> Oggetto: Re: [MapHist] Tropic of Cancer and of Capricocrn
> A: "Discussion group for map history" <maphist@geo.uu.nl>
> Data: Sabato 7 maggio 2011, 15:39
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> Giulio,
> we have to use understandable words: what does "the map of Tropic of 
> Capricorn" mean? 
> In which sense you use the word "map"? 
> How we may "map" a line?  
> When a line like the Tropic of Capricorn runs for a great amount of its 
> length on the sea, what does to map it mean? 
> In your conceptual language, is there any difference between " to measure" 
> and "to map"?
> 
> Why August had to measure/map the Tropic of Capricorn, just for the sake of 
> doing it?
> 
> I read some of your articles and books but the recurring question is WHY? Is 
> not sufficient at all that somebody (Julius Honorius) wrote that the world 
> was "surveyed" (?) by four men that it automatically means that it is the 
> truth.
> 
> I fear we have to find, first of all, a common language and to assign to the 
> words a shared and accepted meaning.
> 
> You sent us a modern map in cylindrical projection where the tropic of 
> Capricorn is in evidence in red, and with 5 toponyms on it with an allusion 
> to August. I hardly understand the relation between your words (i. e. "the 
> map of Tropic of Capricorn made by August, later  27 BC") and the map itself?
> 
> vladimiro
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 10.59, giulio pizzati ha scritto:
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> > Waldo
> > 
> > I send attached ( png ) the map of Tropic of Capricorn made by August, 
> > later  27 BC.
> > Raphta is a Roman naval station to import ivory. See PERUPLUS MARI ERYTHREI 
> >  (Cap. 16/18) see also (wikipedia-org/wiki/Indo_roman_trade_and_relation)
> > 
> > Giulio
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