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Giulio, I see only a list of placenames, and anything else, apart from a certain degree of similarity in sounds. Do you mean that Antofagasta is a settlement of Ancient Roman origin? In replying it is sufficient a "Yes", or a "Not". And M.t August in Australia (from your previous map of the Tropic of Capricorn) is also a Mount discovered and named by roman Surveyors? Even in this case it is sufficient a "Yes", or a "Not". If NOT for both them, who and when decided to name those place in that way? vladimiro Il giorno 08/mag/2011, alle ore 06.58, giulio pizzati ha scritto: > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the > whole list) > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > > Vladimiro! > Not few lines, but only one line: the line number 80th East connecting > Altinum to Antonfagasta (Cile) The number 8 is repeated 18 times and the > onomastic Antony is repeated 6 time along this line. > Eratostenes finded Tropic of Cancer. August of Capricorn. See pgs 145 and 146 > of "The Four Surveyors" here attached. > Giulio. > > --- Sab 7/5/11, Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it> ha scritto: > > Da: Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it> > Oggetto: Re: [MapHist] Tropic of Cancer and of Capricocrn > A: "Discussion group for map history" <maphist@geo.uu.nl> > Data: Sabato 7 maggio 2011, 23:47 > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the > whole list) > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > > Giulio, > just one more query: could you please be so kind as to explain, in your own > words, without referring to other sources or text, in a few lines, the > relation - obscure to me - between the name Antofagasta in Chile and the > "mapping" of the Tropic of Capricorn supposed to be made under August ruler? > In which way the position of Antofagasta at (around) the latitude of the > Tropic of the Capricorn is a proof (or a part of the proof) of the > accomplishment of the task by Roman surveyors? > > vladimiro > > P.S.: if Maphisters are bothered (has Peter anything to say?) by the > discussion you may also reply privately. > > > Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 19.18, giulio pizzati ha scritto: > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the > > whole list) > > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > > > > Vladimiro! > > We are speaking about an Architects topic: "Territorial Roman Planing". > > Geography, History, Archeostronomy, Arcaeology are a complement. > > > > I'll use understandable worlds: > > > > 1. The Map of Tropic of Capricorn means to me to reconstruct the Map of > > Vispanivs Agrippa exposed in Rome in Vispania porch and universally known > > as the "ORBIS PICTVS". > > > > 2. I use modern Maps to superpose Toponims given by the four Mensores of > > Caesar from 44 to 12 BC. > > > > 3. How do I map a Line? Very simple:Take for exemple the Cardo 7th East > > passing not far from Murano (Venice, Italy) . I open Google Earth (it is > > free), I point the ruler in SEVEN Island in Svalborg (Norway) an go to > > SETTE Banda in Gabon (Africa). Ruler gives you a geodetic line (maximvs > > circvlvs)-. Along this line you will find 18 Toponims (location names) > > repeating number SEVEN. Now what is a Straight Line? It is a series of > > point leaning along the line. In this case the 7th Cardo East. See "The > > Four Surveyors" pgs. 133/135. > > > > 4. August had to measure the whole World because of the 'Votvs' of Scipions > > after Cartago was destroyed and because of the 'Indictio' of Caesar . > > > > 5.There is more that sufficient evidences because Cardo lines left by > > Mensores are more that 10.000 (Tenthousend) . Everibody can find it with > > Google Earth. 10.000. evidences prouve automaticaly that Honorivs is true. > > (See "Date a Cesare") > > > > More questions? > > > > Giulio > > > > > > --- Sab 7/5/11, Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it> ha scritto: > > > > Da: Vladimiro Valerio <vladi...@iuav.it> > > Oggetto: Re: [MapHist] Tropic of Cancer and of Capricocrn > > A: "Discussion group for map history" <maphist@geo.uu.nl> > > Data: Sabato 7 maggio 2011, 15:39 > > > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the > > whole list) > > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > > > > Giulio, > > we have to use understandable words: what does "the map of Tropic of > > Capricorn" mean? > > In which sense you use the word "map"? > > How we may "map" a line? > > When a line like the Tropic of Capricorn runs for a great amount of its > > length on the sea, what does to map it mean? > > In your conceptual language, is there any difference between " to measure" > > and "to map"? > > > > Why August had to measure/map the Tropic of Capricorn, just for the sake of > > doing it? > > > > I read some of your articles and books but the recurring question is WHY? > > Is not sufficient at all that somebody (Julius Honorius) wrote that the > > world was "surveyed" (?) by four men that it automatically means that it is > > the truth. > > > > I fear we have to find, first of all, a common language and to assign to > > the words a shared and accepted meaning. > > > > You sent us a modern map in cylindrical projection where the tropic of > > Capricorn is in evidence in red, and with 5 toponyms on it with an allusion > > to August. I hardly understand the relation between your words (i. e. "the > > map of Tropic of Capricorn made by August, later 27 BC") and the map > > itself? > > > > vladimiro > > > > > > > > Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 10.59, giulio pizzati ha scritto: > > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to > > > the whole list) > > > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o > > > + > > > > > > Waldo > > > > > > I send attached ( png ) the map of Tropic of Capricorn made by August, > > > later 27 BC. > > > Raphta is a Roman naval station to import ivory. See PERUPLUS MARI > > > ERYTHREI (Cap. 16/18) see also > > > (wikipedia-org/wiki/Indo_roman_trade_and_relation) > > > > > > Giulio > _______________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. 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