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The whole issue of "south at the top" has previously appeared on Maphist (http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/pipermail/maphist/2002-April/000449.html), in that case referencing English manuscript maps from 1150-1500.

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Good point, thanks. And of course that explains why for some there is a slight halt when we hear that "Upper" Egypt is in the South. In a message dated 5/23/2011 8:09:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

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    Unless water runs uphill one would expect all early Egyptian maps
    to have south to the top of the map as a natural consequence of
    the Nile's flow. Recent research has shown that the
    average American thinks it is much easier to travel south since it
    is downhill on all of our maps. Francis' point was, as we all
    know, journalists are generally ill-equipped to comment on early
    cartography, no matter what their nationality.
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    *Subject:* Re: [MapHist] London Map Fair, 11 & 12 June: confusing
    newspaper publicity

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    You remind me of a long-filed-away question:
    Years back I read the Ancient Egyptians used maps with South at
    top. This may have been based on the famed  Turin  Map Papyrus,
    but it would seem strange to assert or accept  a generalization
    based on one sample. Anyone know of  more on this topic?
    David Suter
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    In a message dated 5/23/2011 4:30:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
    [email protected] writes:

        As some will know, or remember, the Fra Mauro manuscript was
        drawn with _south_ at top; and, as such, this is how it ought
        to have been reproduced. If only to test the interpretative
        skills of the 'average' reader; or even to dramatically put
        across the message that not all western European maps were
        north-oriented. An opportunity lost to leisurely and
        graphically educate some readers (and potential converts to
        collecting



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