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Dear Doug not sure if this is of any relevance at all but your question reminded me of this passage from Dilke's 'Greek and Roman Maps' (p.45-6): iv.81 'Agrippa reported the whole area from the Danube to the ocean as 1200 miles in length, 396 in width, to the Vistula from the Steppes of Sarmatia.' The width expressed (taking the reading of the second hand in the two manuscripts) is literally 400 minus 4; an alternative width is the 386 miles given by the _Divisio_ [orbis] and _Dimensuratio_ [provinciarum]. The former mentions the area as Dacia, the latter as Dacia and Getica. Pliny avoids these names, perhaps because Agrippa's map did not contain them. What route was reckoned from the mouth of the Danube to the Vistula is uncertain. I have no idea whether the Divisio was available as source to Gastaldi though and it wouldn't explain the area West of the Vistula (which seem to be most of the area under consideration!) Linderski (1964) discusses the topic in more detail: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2852498 Best wishes Leif > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:17:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Douglas Sims <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MapHist] Help! (Dacia in the Ptolemaic maps) > To: Discussion group for map history <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Sorin, > > I don't know the nature of the mistake you are investigating on the Ptolemy > map of Dacia, and the following info may be irrelevant to you. However, > since it involves another "mistake" concerning Dacia, it may be of interest > to you, and if you have any ideas on it, that would be of interest to me! > Recently I have had occasion to look into the maps in the 1548 edition of > Ptolemy by Giacomo Gastaldi. Very oddly, Gastaldi has added a land mass in > the northeast part of his rendering of Ptolemy's fourth map of Europe (8th > map in the 1548 Ptolemy, roughly covering modern Germany), and he names it > prominently in capital letters "DACIA". This land appears still again on > Gastaldi's Ptolemaic 8th map of Europe (19th map in the 1548 Ptolemy, roughly > covering modern Poland and eastern Europe), again withe same name. I have > not been able to divine what Gastaldi's rationale was for this peculiar > addition in the North Sea, which occurs in no earlier edition of > Ptolemy that I know of, nor can I imagine why he would apply the ancient > name for Romania to it. > > Perhaps this information may be useful to you. Certainly, if you have any > ideas on this, they would be of interest to me. > > You may not have access to the 1548 Ptolemy, and the two mentioned maps have > not been reproduced anywhere to my knowledge, though they will both be > reproduced in my book on Gastaldi, due to be published in 2012. > > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.nl Maphist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist
