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Dear Sorin,
Indeed you are correct. This is a valuable piece of information, and I'm
indebted to you for pointing it out. Since Gastaldi uses Munster's 1540
annotations in his 1548 Ptolemy, I gave considerable attention to a comparison
of Munster's and Gastaldi's modern maps , but gave only cursory (clearly too
cursory) attention to the Munster Ptolemaic maps, and thus it escaped me. In
any event, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Doug
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From: Sorin Fortiu <mbusi...@banat.ro>
To: maphist@geo.uu.nl
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:07 PM
Subject: [MapHist] RE: Help! (Dacia in the Ptolemaic maps)
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Dear Doug,
These mistakes are taken by Gastaldi from Sebastian MÜNSTER?s "Geographia
vniversalis, vetvs et nova, complectens Clavdii Pto\lemæi alexandrini
enarratio\nis libros VIII., Quorum primus noua translatione [Bilibaldi]
Pirckheimheri (i.e. Willibald PIRCKHEIMER -n.m.) ... Succedunt tabulæ
Ptolemaicæ, opera Sebastiani Mun\steri (i.e. Sebastian MÜNSTER -n.m.) nouo
paratæ modo. ..., Basileæ (i.e. Basel -n.m.) apvd Henri\cvm Petrvm, Mense
Martio. An.[no] M. D. XLII (i.e. .03.1542 -n.m.), [56] + 195 + [194] [=446] pg.
There are at least 3 editions of this work published in 1540, 1542, 1545.
At http://www.swaen.com/Munster1540.html you will find the 1540 edition. On the
map 6, you will find the exact "mistake" as at Gastaldi's map of Germany.
You fill have to consult also the text below the map(s).
I suppose that the region where DACIA is inscribed on Gastaldi's map of Germany
is the ancient Gothland / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6taland
And because from Iordanes (6th century AD/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanes) we "know" that the goths = dacians =>
Gothland = Dacia (in the mind of Gastaldi/Munster/etc).
Best Regards,
S o r i n
From: Douglas Sims
To: Discussion group for map history
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Help! (Dacia in the Ptolemaic maps)
Dear Sorin,
I don't know the nature of the mistake you are investigating on the Ptolemy map
of Dacia, and the following info may be irrelevant to you. However, since it
involves another "mistake" concerning Dacia, it may be of interest to you, and
if you have any ideas on it, that would be of interest to me! Recently I have
had occasion to look into the maps in the 1548 edition of Ptolemy by Giacomo
Gastaldi. Very oddly, Gastaldi has added a land mass in the northeast part of
his rendering of Ptolemy's fourth map of Europe (8th map in the 1548 Ptolemy,
roughly covering modern Germany), and he names it prominently in capital
letters "DACIA". This land appears still again on Gastaldi's Ptolemaic 8th map
of Europe (19th map in the 1548 Ptolemy, roughly covering modern Poland and
eastern Europe), again withe same name. I have not been able to divine what
Gastaldi's ration ale was for this peculiar addition in the North Sea, which
occurs in no earlier edition of Ptolemy
that I know of, nor can I imagine why he would apply the ancient name for
Romania to it.
Perhaps this information may be useful to you. Certainly, if you have any ideas
on this, they would be of interest to me.
You may not have access to the 1548 Ptolemy, and the two mentioned maps have
not been reproduced anywhere to my knowledge, though they will both be
reproduced in my book on Gastaldi, due to be published in 2012.
Doug
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