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So did you use Paris, Texas or Paris, France and Sydney, Canada or Sydney,
Australia.

I think its not so much a question, as a cautionary tale about not recording
meta data :)

Andrew Young

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Huber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 April 2001 18:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MI-L A Mapping Puzzle for Savants


At 09:15 AM 4/24/01 -0600, Bill Thoen wrote:
>Say you come upon a sign that says the following:
>         Paris 4658 miles
>         <snip four lines>
>         Johannesburg 9092 miles
>How would you determine where the sign is located?

...

>But I'm surprised that with all the GIS mapping power held by this group
>that few have tried the obvious: map the cities, and draw circular
>buffers around them at the specified distances.

Maybe we're all too familiar with the limitations of our GIS software :-)

OK, I broke down and solved the problem with Excel using a spherical model 
of the earth.  One good solution I can find (there are many good solutions, 
but they are all close to each other) is near Elk City, Kansas, USA, at 
longitude -95.833, latitude 37.350.  This solution is likely within 20 
miles of the truth (that's an approximate 95% confidence limit), is within 
14 miles of agreeing with all the given distances, and errs in the 
distances up to +-0.22%.  This is as good as one would expect given that 
the locations of the reference cities cannot be pinned down more precisely 
than 10-20 miles (e.g., is the sign measuring from their centers or to 
their borders?) and given the almost 1/300 flattening of the earth relative 
to the spherical model.

Evidently using calipers (my earlier solution suggesting Salt Lake City) or 
string (another poster's solution suggesting Wisconsin) on a small globe 
are not very accurate methods.  Kudos to Flavio who suggested the 
"geographic center of the world:" Lebanon, KS, longitude -95.560, latitude 
39.779, about 30 miles away.

Given Vos Savant's record (see the "Marilyn is Wrong!" site at 
http://www.wiskit.com/marilyn/marilyn.html), it is possible the published 
solution will devolve into some inane chestnut like "just ask the nearest 
native," its techno equivalent, "pull a reading off your GPS unit" or the 
full-time consultant's variant, "check your calendar: that will tell you 
where you are today."

--Bill Huber
Consultant and sometime GIS aficionado



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