OK, I agree about the SCSI-RAID option (our server has a RAID-5 setup) but
given the enormous cost difference between SCSI and ATA, and converging
performance, it would make sense to use 4 chunky ATA disks in a RAID 0/1
configuration for speed and security. Might be a bit noisy with all those
disks spinning, though.

GrahamOB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MapInfo-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "GrahamOB"
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Sent: 13 September 2002 00:56
Subject: RE: MI-L Hardware Specs


>
> Hello Graham,
>
> ... but you can of course RAID0 SCSI disks too so that's not really a
> factor. If cost is a concern, by all means consider ATA disks, but since
the
> machine spec' given by Michael's original post seems uncompromising, you
> might as well have the best of everything!
>
> BTW, a good friend of mind swore by RAID0 ATA disks and was giving me a
demo
> of their speed when the controller flashed up an error message. The end
> result was that he lost everything on his disks because a damaged stripe
> took out all data... at least when a un-RAIDed disk fails in a localised
> area, there's a chance to get most of the data back. Don't get me wrong,
> RAID0 has it's place but you've really got to know what it's doing and
what
> the risks are.
>
> Regards,
> Warren Vick
> Europa Technologies Ltd.
> http://www.europa-tech.com
>
> > Slaving away in London UK
> Me too... more coffee?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GrahamOB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MI-L Hardware Specs
>
>
> OK, here's my tuppence-worth (about 3 cents, so you're getting good value)
>
> Don't bother with SCSI. For a cost-effective and, above all, fast
solution,
> use a pair of the biggest,  fastest  ATA disks you can find with a RAID
> controller, configured as RAID-0. This stripes the data across the pair of
> disks, effectively doubling the transfer rate (less a little overhead). I
> use a set-up like that with a couple of 40GB drives, and it handles even
> pretty big raster files very fast.
>
> BTW, has anyone noticed what a good games machine this would make? Imagine
> Half-Life or Unreal Tournament on that - yummy!
>
> GrahamOB
> Slaving away in London UK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 12 September 2002 23:32
> Subject: RE: MI-L Hardware Specs
>
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Why would all three disks be working at the same time? Once the OS is
> > loaded, it may only occasionally load extra components. Ditto for
> > applications. There used to be a case for putting the swap file on a
drive
> > of it's own but with 1GB of memory, it's unlikely one will see any page
> > swaps unless the user runs half a dozen apps at the same time.
> >
> > My recommendation is to upgrade to a good SCSI disk controller and
> Ultra-160
> > drives. In my experience, disk speed is as important as the processor
with
> > memory only a problem if you don' t have enough. Lots of excess memory
is
> > not going to make the machine faster.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Warren Vick
> > Europa Technologies Ltd.
> > http://www.europa-tech.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: MI-L Hardware Specs
> >
> >
> > As long as you are building a machine,  I would suggest that you use
three
> > separate hard drives.  put the OS on one, the programs on the second,
and
> > the
> > data on the third.  the first two can be 5 to 10 gig in size (you use
the
> > spare space for temp storage and print spooling). The third should be
> large.
> > this is more efficient and will speed up data transfer (instead of
having
> > the
> > head of one HD doing all the work, you have three HD's working
> > independently).  You should also have a back up (removable?) hard drive
> (or
> > two) for long term data storage (just in case your main storage drive
goes
> > bad - it is hell when that happens).
> >
> > you did not specify your bus speed/memory speed.  there are new memory
> chips
> > (very expensive) that work at 5 to 10 times the speed (data transfer) of
> the
> > SDRAM
> >
> > s. figuers
> >
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