Hi Ian,

I'd have thought that MapInfo would be monitoring this list and answer
questions like this .... With the Manifold list, the Manifold team seems to
be in there furthering development by responding to list queries ...

Anyway, from a user group meeting a week ago, we were told by the MapInfo
rep that version 8 will be shipped later this month. He also showed a screen
capture of a prototype .NET MI that looked a bit like ArcView with the layer
control docked to the left side of the screen and a few other changes on the
screen.

Apparently MI will continue development and upgrade releases of the current
version of MapInfo / MapBasic for the next 12 - 18 months. But in the next
six months, they will release a Beta .NET version for users to trial and
send feedback to them, with the goal of doing a .NET release early next
year. If you are on the maintenance plan, you'll continue to receive your
upgrades of current versions, but will also be able to get the new .NET
versions. The idea being that once the majority are comfortable with .NET
they'll switch off development of the current MapInfo/MapBasic combination.

If I've missed or misinterpreted something, and someone from MapInfo wants
to clarify for the list, please feel free to do so.

Bill

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From: "Ian Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold



Does anyone know what the current state of play is with MapInfo .NET - the
'Grande' project. MapInfo originally said it would come out last year, but
then came 7.8 and now 8.0. I can't find any reference to it ...

Regards,

Ian Hull


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                      Peter Horsb�ll
                      M�ller                   To:       "Neil Havermale"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
                      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>             "SCISOFT"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ben A Greenberg"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Cowper, Brian"
                      08/06/2005 15:42          <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[email protected]>
                                               cc:       "Sukkurwala, Gus"
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                                               Subject:  RE: MI-L MapInfo
vs. Manifold





It is not a rumor anymore. MapInfo 8.0 has been released and I have already
had a look at it. Some nice new features has been added.

One feature that I could have used years ago when I did a lot of
vectorization is the Stream digitizing that adds a new node to a
polyline/polygon when you move the cursor more then x pixels.

Here is a list of new features in MapInfo 6.5 to 8.0:
http://www.critchlow.co.nz/library/MI%20Files/MapInfo_Professional_8_Comparison_Sheet.pdf


Remember that MapInfo 8.0 is still based on the old code base, so we are
not talking about the .NET version which now is known as the "Grande"
project

Peter Horsb�ll M�ller
GIS Developer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Havermale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:09 PM
To: SCISOFT; 'Ben A Greenberg'; 'Cowper, Brian';
[email protected]
Cc: 'Sukkurwala, Gus'
Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold


I would advocate that any sort of comparison take place on the pending Pro
8.0 versus an old code emulated by many.  Given that the rumor of the
release for MapInfo Pro 8.0 is for this month, I'd wait a few days before
discounting the MapInfo offering as suggested.

neil

-----Original Message-----
From: SCISOFT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:35 AM
To: 'Ben A Greenberg'; 'Cowper, Brian'; [email protected]
Cc: 'Sukkurwala, Gus'
Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold

I strongly disagree - painfully slow? You've got to be kidding!

And look at the last week (or year) of posts here on MapInfo-L about
MapInfo Professional's problems with MS Access; contrast that with the
database facilities in Manifold 6+ and its powerful spatial SQL ...

I main thing wrong with Manifold is that it's priced too low.

Ian Thomas
GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben A Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 11:48 PM
To: Cowper, Brian; [email protected]
Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus
Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold

Right off the bat i can say that i would not reccomend Manifold over
Mapinfo for day to day desktop mapping.  THis is mainly because it is
painfully slow. I have found it usefull as a extra utility, but don't rely
on it (like i do
mapinfo) for day to day work.  That being said, it's not a bad deal for
$300 or whatever it costs now, assuming you also have Mapinfo, ArcView, or
a compararble desktop product.

Ben  Greenberg
GIS Coordinator
NAI MLG Commercial
262-797-9400


-----Original Message-----
From: Cowper, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus
Subject: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold


Hi Listers,

I have been asked to evaulate Manifold, do any of you have experience using
Manifold? I would particularly be interested in how Manifold compares to
MapInfo. I will be cheking out an evaulation copy of Manifold this week,
but any Manifold real world experiences would be helpful.

TIA

Brian Cowper

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