I understand that the blog post is part of an established genre of
break-up posts with your favored FOSS project, so I am taking it with
the appropriate grain of salt. However, I am a full-time cartographer
and the post has dissuaded me from getting involved. The hidden
gatekeepers are especially troubling.

--Tom

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Deborah Tankersley
<dtankers...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> The server clusters that the WMF uses are on Wikitech and can be viewed
> here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Clusters.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Deb
>
>
> --
>
> deb tankersley
>
> Program Manager, Engineering
>
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/23/2018 10:32 AM, Stefano wrote:
>>>
>>> Related to this,
>>> I wondered if the WMF could be interested in this request for support
>>>
>>> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/02/19/osmf-request-for-proposals-data-centre-2018/
>>
>>
>> One of the core requirements is the data centre is in the EU, for three
>> reasons, and I believe the WMF is entirely in North America.
>>
>> 1. The privacy implications of leaving the EU are complex.
>>
>> 2. This is a data centre move, not starting a new site. Customs charges
>> and the difficulty of physically moving the servers are likely to make
>> outside the EU expensive and very complicated
>>
>> 3. Ping requirements require the site to be in Europe, or near it. A new
>> site wouldn't have this constraint, as it could serve a different role, but
>> this site needs good connectivity for cross-datacentre failover.
>>
>> If the WMF were interested in supporting with hardware or rack space, I'm
>> sure the OWG would be interested.
>>
>> The problem is likely to be having hardware in the production network not
>> administered by WMF operations.
>>
>> OSM's biggest need is for human resources, not computer ones. On the
>> technical side, developers helping with code, people writing documentation,
>> etc. On the non-technical side, people who can write helping out OSMF's
>> Communications Working Group, and other people bringing the skills they
>> have.
>>
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