As dumb as I sound? Excellent.
Anyway, to the reasonable people who responded with great information, I want to asuage your ethics concerns. I came by the data quite legitimately while working with a local elected official in Southern California. Upon leaving that employment I was officially granted use of the data by said elected official. I am now attempting to use the data in a PhD dissertation in a program that requires shp files, but is not ArcGIS. It is called GeoDa, and is a quite powerful spatial analysis shareware package developed by Luc Anselin at the Univ. of Illinois. I actually have most of the data that I need in the required format, but I have a large amount of maptitude format data that I want to explore for possible inclusion in my regression models. I appreciate the concerns of people who think that I am trying to violate copyright and intellectual property rules. I hope that I have answered those concerns. I also appreciate the concerns of people who are loyal to Caliper and Maptitude. I think its apparent that I unintentionally stepped into a hornets nest akin to the past years war between wintel and mac users. Unfortunately, going from consultant fees to graduate student life does not afford me the opportunity to purchase Maptitude. And, as I am doing my research in the field I can not, at present, utilize any Maptitude software to which my university has license (though I am actually unsure if its readily available in any event). As per my comment about GIS experts, I am a novice in use of GIS software. I have taught myself to use ArcGIS and GeoDa for the purposes of my academic research. Therefore, I did not view my question as one of asking you to help my violate intellectual property rights, but rather akin to making data in SPSS format usable in R. I am a member of many different message forums, and because of that I suggest that if you desire to have any appeal to newbies that you use less flame and more attempts at understanding the exact nature of an inquiry. Unfortunately, I now have the impression that the Maptitude community here is quite insular. Perhaps that is suggestive of a particular corporate culture. In any event, to those who offered helpful information, I give you my regards, Jason McDaniel --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jason, > I really don't think you're as dumb as you sound but you're question has > nothing to do with being a GIS expert, it's more about ethics. Not to > mention the stones to openly ask to pirate proprietary data from the > source; the folks at Caliper are active participents of this user group. > Have the decency to at least pretend to be interest in paying the $500 > bucks to Caliper and then pretend you're not using the stuff with a > competitors software; or better yet pay the thousands and thousands of > dollars to ESRI for the same data. > > > Viktor Keenan de la Hoz - Senior GIS Technician > City of Phoenix - Street Transportation Department > Design and Construction Management Division > (602) 534-0498 > > "There is no such thing as a dumb question, only dumb people." > > > > > "valisjason1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 01/10/2005 09:28 AM > Please respond to Maptitude > > > To: [email protected] > cc: > Subject: [Maptitude] Re: Possible to convert maptitude to .shp? > > > > > Gee, thanks for the helpful messages guys. I didnt realize one had to be > a GIS expert to > post to this board. And, as a matter of fact, I did manage to get an > "almost" free copy of > ArcGIS from ESRI. > > I dont even need the map file, just the data underneath. Is there > absolutely NO WAY to get > at the underlying data, in the .bin file I believe? No workaround that > some GIS geek > worked out? > > Thanks again, > Jason > > --- In [email protected], Chris Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Viktor, > > > > Hey can I get one too......... ;-) > > > > Chris Wagner > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > Jason, > > > > > > You've got stone, I'll give you that much but come on! Why don't you > > > ask ESRI for a free license key of a copy of ArcGIS you found. > > > > > > Viktor Keenan de la Hoz - Senior GIS Technician > > > City of Phoenix - Street Transportation Department > > > Design and Construction Management Division > > > (602) 534-0498 > > > > > > "There is no such thing as a dumb question, only dumb people." > > > > > > > > > > > > *"valisjason1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > > > > > > 01/07/2005 02:02 PM > > > Please respond to Maptitude > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > cc: > > > Subject: [Maptitude] Possible to convert maptitude to > > > .shp? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come in to possession of a large supply of maptitude data > > > files. I do not have > > > Maptitude. Is it possible to convert these maptitude data files so > > > that I can use them in > > > ArcGis? I know the Maptitude website says that their data files are > > > proprietary, but I > > > thought I would ask. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maptitude/ > > > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? 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