Jason: Write your files on a CD – be sure
to get them all, and I’ll take a crack at converting them to .shp files. I
can’t believe Caliper will care and of course and in fact would be
encouraging and I am encouraging you to get Maptitude as your backup GIS when
you get some $. If you are a matriculated student I believe Caliper has a deal
or maybe not at every school – sorry, but I am not positive about that. Other
vendors have similar deals for students.
I am a intermediate level user of ArcGIS
and I hope an advanced user of Maptitude(least with
regards to time) and even with v9 of ArcGIS – it has some very rough
spots and crevasses. And for $500 Maptitude is a real deal. I use Maptitude routinely to create .shp
files for GeoDa. I have never had one fail except
from ArcView 3 made .shp files which are notorious for having topological
flaws. I used to use Maptitude to fix .shp files that would not run in ESRI
software.
I use GeoDa
quite a lot, a fine piece of work. http://sal.agecon.uiuc.edu/default.php for everyone else.
I have been a beta tester since the
project started. It has lots of spatial analytical tools that you cannot find
anywhere. GIS companies are not convinced that the market is large enough to warrant
adding those features to their software so it is appropriate for a grant funded
project. Definitely not a competitor as it is not a full GIS and never will be.
So you will need a real GIS to support your work with GeoDA.
I think we should all work together. Most
of have scant funds, no time, no staff, on and on, but we do have some pretty
good technology to leverage dim resources. Let’s help each other out –
Dick Hoskins, PhD MPH
Spatial Epidemiology Unit
Asst Secretary’s Office, EHSPHL
WA State Dept of Health
MS 47812
Olympia, WA 98504-7812
From: valisjason1
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005
9:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Maptitude] Re: Possible
to convert maptitude to .shp?
As dumb as I sound? Excellent.
Anyway, to the reasonable people who responded
with great information, I want to asuage
your ethics concerns. I came by the data
quite legitimately while working with a local
elected official in Southern
California. Upon leaving that employment I was officially
granted use of the data by said elected
official. I am now attempting to use the data in a
PhD dissertation in a program that requires shp
files, but is not ArcGIS. It is called GeoDa,
and is a quite powerful spatial analysis shareware
package developed by Luc Anselin at the
Univ. of Illinois. I actually have most of the data that I need in the
required format, but I
have a large amount of maptitude format data that I
want to explore for possible inclusion
in my regression models.
I appreciate the concerns of people who think that
I am trying to violate copyright and
intellectual property rules. I hope that I
have answered those concerns. I also appreciate
the concerns of people who are loyal to Caliper
and Maptitude. I think its apparent that I
unintentionally stepped into a hornets nest akin
to the past years war between wintel and
mac users. Unfortunately, going from
consultant fees to graduate student life does not
afford me the opportunity to purchase
Maptitude. And, as I am doing my research in the
field I can not, at present, utilize any Maptitude
software to which my university has
license (though I am actually unsure if its
readily available in any event).
As per my comment about GIS experts, I am a novice
in use of GIS software. I have taught
myself to use ArcGIS and GeoDa for the purposes of
my academic research. Therefore, I
did not view my question as one of asking you to
help my violate intellectual property
rights, but rather akin to making data in SPSS
format usable in R.
I am a member of many different message forums,
and because of that I suggest that if
you desire to have any appeal to newbies that you
use less flame and more attempts at
understanding the exact nature of an
inquiry. Unfortunately, I now have the impression
that the Maptitude community here is quite
insular. Perhaps that is suggestive of a
particular corporate culture.
In any event, to those who offered helpful
information, I give you my regards,
Jason McDaniel
--- In [email protected],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jason,
> I really don't think you're as dumb as you
sound but you're question has
> nothing to do with being a GIS expert, it's
more about ethics. Not to
> mention the stones to openly ask to pirate
proprietary data from the
> source; the folks at Caliper are active
participents of this user group.
> Have the decency to at least pretend to be
interest in paying the $500
> bucks to Caliper and then pretend
you're not using the stuff with a
> competitors software; or better yet pay
the thousands and thousands of
> dollars to ESRI for the same data.
>
>
> Viktor Keenan de la Hoz - Senior GIS
Technician
> City of Phoenix
- Street Transportation Department
> Design and Construction Management Division
> (602) 534-0498
>
> "There is no such thing as a dumb
question, only dumb people."
>
>
>
>
> "valisjason1"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/10/2005 09:28 AM
> Please respond to Maptitude
>
>
>
To: [email protected]
>
cc:
>
Subject: [Maptitude] Re: Possible to
convert maptitude to .shp?
>
>
>
>
> Gee, thanks for the helpful messages
guys. I didnt realize one had to be
> a GIS expert to
> post to this board. And, as a matter of
fact, I did manage to get an
> "almost" free copy of
> ArcGIS from ESRI.
>
> I dont even need the map file, just the data
underneath. Is there
> absolutely NO WAY to get
> at the underlying data, in the .bin file I
believe? No workaround that
> some GIS geek
> worked out?
>
> Thanks again,
> Jason
>
> --- In [email protected], Chris
Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Viktor,
> >
>
> Hey can I get one
too......... ;-)
> >
> > Chris Wagner
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Jason,
> > >
> > > You've got stone, I'll give you
that much but come on! Why don't you
> > > ask ESRI for a free license key of
a copy of ArcGIS you found.
> > >
> > > Viktor Keenan de la Hoz - Senior
GIS Technician
> > > City of Phoenix - Street Transportation Department
> > > Design and Construction Management
Division
> > > (602) 534-0498
> > >
> > > "There is no such thing as a
dumb question, only dumb people."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
*"valisjason1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > >
> > > 01/07/2005 02:02 PM
> > > Please respond to Maptitude
> > >
> > >
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> cc:
> >
>
Subject: [Maptitude] Possible to
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> > > .shp?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have come in to possession of a
large supply of maptitude data
> > > files. I do not have
> > > Maptitude. Is it possible to
convert these maptitude data files so
> > > that I can use them in
> > > ArcGis? I know the Maptitude
website says that their data files are
> > > proprietary, but I
> > > thought I would ask.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
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