On 29/Jul/11 02:14, zav961 wrote:
> I see the autoresponders fully involved here - MARF is actually an
> ideal tool to be used by spam filters, virus scanners and the like,
> long term they'll certainly take advantage of the possibilities of
> MARF.
> 
> [...]
> 
> Hence, to word a request to the MARF group: design the MARF drafts
> not only with manual, but also with automated responders in mind. I
> am convinced, that automated responders will create most of the
> feedback messages in not too distant future.

+1, possibly we should add a field such as Report-Trigger: human/auto.

Automatically triggered reports to discovered (not FBL) consumers may
actually correspond to the etymological DSN origin or ARF.  An MTA
decides to quarantine a message, either UBE or virus, and issues a
report.  The report should be sent with an empty smtp.mailfrom in this
case, so it may be an alternative to "Report-Trigger".  I concur that
text/rfc822-headers is enough for automatically discovered viruses, if
Reported-Malware is set.

How about UBE?  Such reports probably also need to be handled
differently, according to their human/auto origin.

> Malware analysis companies have established their own channels of
> how to receive malware samples. That's not a consideration for
> reporting mail abuse, in my opinion.

I disagree on this.  Many companies have, or used to have, email
addresses specific for (suspected) virus submission by humans, e.g.
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], ...
Most of them recommend to use zip files, possibly password-protected
so that sender-side mail scanners won't block them.

> If the virus scanner did not recognize the threat, there will 
> obviously be no report anyway and the malware go through - and may
> cause damage at the recipient's end, which then will trigger the
> malware being submitted to malware analysers.

That is to say, there will be a report, but to a different consumer.

jm2c
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