On 4/3/12 3:36 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
Attached is a diff that should satisfy everything Pete just brought up.  Please 
let me know if there are any objections.

Well, mostly. :-)

On 4/3/12 1:08 PM, Pete Resnick wrote:
5.1.1.
       At the time this document is being written, for the use cases
       described here, mail operators need to proactively request a
       stream of ARF reports from Mailbox Providers.  Recommendations
       for preparing to make that request are discussed in Section 4.1
       of [RFC6449].

Strike "At the time this document is being written, for the use cases described here". It seems utterly obvious. If you write a new document with new use cases, you can change the instruction. Also, why "need to" instead of "MUST"?

    1.  Mail operators MUST proactively request a stream of ARF reports
        from Mailbox Providers.  Recommendations for preparing to make
        that request are discussed in Section 4.1 of [RFC6449].

Um, OK, that makes it clear why it ought not be a MUST. :-) Seriously though, you *don't* want to say that *all* mail operators MUST a request (which is how the sentence currently reads). You probably want to say that all requests MUST be proactive. The first sentence needs re-arranging.

    2.  Operators must be able to accept ARF [RFC5965] reports as email
        messages [RFC5322] over SMTP [RFC5321].  These and other types of
        email messages that can be received are discussed in Section 4.2
        of [RFC6449].

Is there a reason that first "must" is not capitalized?


6.2.1
       Handling of unsolicited reports has a significant cost to the
       receiver.  Senders of unsolicited reports, especially those
       sending large volumes of them automatically, need to be aware of
       this and do all they reasonably can to avoid sending reports that
       cannot be used as a basis for action by the recipient, whether
       this is due to the report being sent about an incident that is
       not abuse-related, the report being sent to an email address that
       won't result in action, or the content or format of the report
       being hard for the recipient to read or use.

I don't get why 2119 language is being avoided in the above. Why not s/need to be aware of this and do all they reasonably can to avoid sending/[MUST/SHOULD] NOT send ?

This was not addressed.

Everything else seems to be covered, and see also my answer to Alessandro.

Thanks.

pr

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