Hi,

-----Original Message-----
From: Benoit Claise [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:04 AM
To: Murray S. Kucherawy
Cc: The IESG; [email protected]; draft-ietf-marf-
[email protected]; [email protected]; me
Subject: Re: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with
DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Therefore, I'm in favor to mention how fraud, not-spam, virus should be
used.
We would have if we had that information, but we don't.  As I mentioned in the 
Introduction for -15, they are either too new (not-spam) or see too little use 
for us to comment on them in this document in a useful way.

I don't know what we could do beyond saying that explicitly, which we've done, 
apart from delaying this document until we have that experience, which could 
theoretically be never.

If we do want it to advance, then I'm happy to hear suggestions about what text 
we could add that satisfies your concern.  Is it really just the title?
Ok, you convinced me.
Let me propose something, based on your new draft version

OLD

   At the time of publication of this document, five feedback types are
   registered.  This document only discusses two of them ("abuse" and
   "auth-failure") as they are seeing sufficient use in practice that
   applicability statements can be made about them.  The others are
   either too new or too seldomly used to be included here.

NEW


   At the time of publication of this document, five feedback types are
   registered.  This document only discusses two of them ("abuse" and
   "auth-failure") as they are seeing sufficient use in practice that
   applicability statements can be made about them.  The others, i.e. "fraud"
   RFC5965], "not-spam"       [RFC6430], and "virus"[RFC5965] are
   either too new or too seldomly used to be included here.


These simple pointers would help addressing my previous point:

   "Even before re-reading RFC2026, my feeling was that an
   applicability statement could be the first document that someone new
   to a WG could read: explaining the different use cases, giving
   pointers to the technical specifications, and explaining how to
   apply/combine the specifications. Basically, a document that would
   help implementors to select which (part of the) spec. to implement
   depending on the use case, a document that would promote the
   technology. This is how we approached the Applicability Statement
   documents in the WGs I've been involved with. "

Thanks for work on this draft.

Regards, Benoit.

Let me discuss this during the IETF telechat tomorrow, see what the
others are thinking, and get back to you.
OK.

-MSK




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