Chip, I've been very clear, this *is* a commercial offering, we will be making 
money. ShapeBlue makes its money out of services around Cloudstack. This is 
what we do to feed our kids.

These courses have been in development for some time, we have invested time & 
money  in creating a structured course with classroom & online version and also 
a whole set of hands-on labs. To be frank, I would expect *some* degree of 
support from the community on this. I'm taking a commercial risk, creating 
something that that surely can only help ACS long term
I have offered/donated  20% of the places on the Santa Clara course to the 
community free of charge.

I am really  trying   to make sure that we respect the rules & governance of 
the project (which I have to do carefully as we are a vendor  who primarily  
are about CloudStack). I think we've always managed to do that (if we haven't, 
I would like to be told).


However, if there is a training course being run in our technology , then 
people should know about it; and it SHOULD be in a weekly news update IMO.
If the course was being run by somebody else, I would say the same thing.; I 
would want to know about it.  We should not refuse to mention it because 
somebody is making some money out of it.


I am not asking for endorsement, I am asking  to help communicate something 
that people may find useful & want to purchase.


Kind Regards
Giles

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 02 May 2013 18:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Weekly News Items?

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:14:41PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Giles Sirett wrote:
> > Joe
> >
> > I'd like to add our upcoming CloudStack Bootcamp courses to the
> > news/events. (once Matt has made collab bold) However, they are
> > commercial offerings. Is that permissible  ?
>
> Maybe? I don't have a strong objection, as long as they're CloudStack
> specific and they're added with the same format as other events.
> Anyone else?

IMO, if the costs for attendance were only to cover the cost of doing the 
training, then I'd be fine.  I assume, however, that ShapeBlue is hoping to 
make a little profit from the training.  (If I'm wrong, correct me)  While I 
*love* that it's happening, and I hope that it goes well, and frankly like 
companies in our ecosystem to be profitable...
the project itself should not be endorsing commercial ventures.

Comments / flames?

-chip

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