Chip - thanks for that. +1 on including other announcements that include ACS news.... I am ( probably like you) in a privileged position in that I know what a lot of what is going on in the commercial space around ACS..... I know what SatckIQ are up to, I know what Citrix are up to ,I know what the other dozens of vendors are up to. There may be many folks in this community who are not as aware and may actually find it useful to know what people are doing.
I really appreciate that this is getting into a very murky area and will have to be carefully watched Kind Regards Giles D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 May 2013 18:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Weekly News Items? On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 05:38:46PM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote: > Chip, I've been very clear, this *is* a commercial offering, we will be > making money. ShapeBlue makes its money out of services around Cloudstack. > This is what we do to feed our kids. > > These courses have been in development for some time, we have invested > time & money in creating a structured course with classroom & online version > and also a whole set of hands-on labs. To be frank, I would expect *some* > degree of support from the community on this. I'm taking a commercial risk, > creating something that that surely can only help ACS long term I have > offered/donated 20% of the places on the Santa Clara course to the community > free of charge. > > I am really trying to make sure that we respect the rules & governance of > the project (which I have to do carefully as we are a vendor who primarily > are about CloudStack). I think we've always managed to do that (if we > haven't, I would like to be told). > > > However, if there is a training course being run in our technology , then > people should know about it; and it SHOULD be in a weekly news update IMO. > If the course was being run by somebody else, I would say the same thing.; I > would want to know about it. We should not refuse to mention it because > somebody is making some money out of it. > > > I am not asking for endorsement, I am asking to help communicate something > that people may find useful & want to purchase. > I want to be *very* clear that I'm not against community support for what you are doing. The specific concern I had was about "endorsement" of a commercial "service" and the implication it would have for how we would treat commercial "product" announcements. However, looking back through past discussions on this topic, I believe the overriding point is that as long as we are consistent and open about inclusion, there are no problems. As stated, this is a pointer to something. In fact, I think that we should consider pointing to product announcements that include CloudStack news as well (example: we could have pointed to http://www.stackiq.com/products/rocks-cloud/ when it was announced). I'll sit down now... +1 for adding it. Thanks for being patient as I got through my own muddled thoughts in full view of everyone... ;-) This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
