So, to me honestly this sounds like we should just put this to a vote so that we have a clear direction going forward?
Matt On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, "Giles Sirett" <[email protected]> wrote: >Chip, I've been very clear, this *is* a commercial offering, we will be >making money. ShapeBlue makes its money out of services around >Cloudstack. This is what we do to feed our kids. > >These courses have been in development for some time, we have invested >time & money in creating a structured course with classroom & online >version and also a whole set of hands-on labs. To be frank, I would >expect *some* degree of support from the community on this. I'm taking a >commercial risk, creating something that that surely can only help ACS >long term >I have offered/donated 20% of the places on the Santa Clara course to >the community free of charge. > >I am really trying to make sure that we respect the rules & governance >of the project (which I have to do carefully as we are a vendor who >primarily are about CloudStack). I think we've always managed to do that >(if we haven't, I would like to be told). > > >However, if there is a training course being run in our technology , then >people should know about it; and it SHOULD be in a weekly news update IMO. >If the course was being run by somebody else, I would say the same >thing.; I would want to know about it. We should not refuse to mention >it because somebody is making some money out of it. > > >I am not asking for endorsement, I am asking to help communicate >something that people may find useful & want to purchase. > > >Kind Regards >Giles > >D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055 >[email protected] > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 02 May 2013 18:19 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Weekly News Items? > >On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:14:41PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> On Thu, May 2, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Giles Sirett wrote: >> > Joe >> > >> > I'd like to add our upcoming CloudStack Bootcamp courses to the >> > news/events. (once Matt has made collab bold) However, they are >> > commercial offerings. Is that permissible ? >> >> Maybe? I don't have a strong objection, as long as they're CloudStack >> specific and they're added with the same format as other events. >> Anyone else? > >IMO, if the costs for attendance were only to cover the cost of doing the >training, then I'd be fine. I assume, however, that ShapeBlue is hoping >to make a little profit from the training. (If I'm wrong, correct me) >While I *love* that it's happening, and I hope that it goes well, and >frankly like companies in our ecosystem to be profitable... >the project itself should not be endorsing commercial ventures. > >Comments / flames? > >-chip > >This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended >solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views >or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not >necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If >you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take >any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please >contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. >Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue >Services India LLP is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. >ShapeBlue is a registered trademark. >
